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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Ya, my intake pipe gets pretty hot.

Actually, let me see if anyone can answer this...

When I go into boost, specifically at night, my battery meter drops way down, the lights in and outside the car dim, etc, etc. It's like the alternator can't keep up when the car goes into boost??!!

I wonder if it's the oil pump kicking into high, but I can't imagine it pulling that much power. Maybe the PCV system...??
Don't wait for something to break! If you blow a fuse or something shorts out while you are in boost there is no telling what might happen. Maybe it is no big deal, but maybe you are one WOT away from needing a new bottom end.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pdanrichey
...When I go into boost, specifically at night, my battery meter drops way down, the lights in and outside the car dim, etc, etc. It's like the alternator can't keep up when the car goes into boost??!! I wonder if it's the oil pump kicking into high, but I can't imagine it pulling that much power. Maybe the PCV system...??
I have been running my system for years, and have never seen this occur. Sounds like a charging system issue, or perhaps belt slippage?
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pdanrichey
Ya, my intake pipe gets pretty hot.

Actually, let me see if anyone can answer this...

When I go into boost, specifically at night, my battery meter drops way down, the lights in and outside the car dim, etc, etc. It's like the alternator can't keep up when the car goes into boost??!!

I wonder if it's the oil pump kicking into high, but I can't imagine it pulling that much power. Maybe the PCV system...??
This is common. You need to get a volt booster. They work great and function by increasing 2.5x voltage under boost/throttle. This also boosts voltage to the fuel pump, ensuring that it doesn't underflow under WOT.

check out my thread I started awhile ago before buying it:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/701989-alternator-booster-vs-boost-pump.html

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Old May 11, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by erichughes
Don't wait for something to break! If you blow a fuse or something shorts out while you are in boost there is no telling what might happen. Maybe it is no big deal, but maybe you are one WOT away from needing a new bottom end.
Wow, your first official post ever! I'm so glad you blessed me with it! Maybe you should just come over and use that nifty voltage meter of yours and haller at this problem...

Ya, I'm sure it's not an major issue, but it something I'll look into getting fixed.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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casper sells a unit you might be interested in. Less than $75 and from what ive heard from Mightymouse (i think it was him) the guages and lights stay nice and bright under WOT/boost. I have one but my car doesnt make boost right now so my lights stay bright anyway
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_Z28
We'll I just dyno'd the car the other day on 12.5 lbs of boost and made 653whp 664tq.

What really tripped me out was that my boost gauge read 14 lbs but their software that was tee'd into the same vacum source as my gauge read 12.5 lbs? My gauge is kind of hooked up ghetto fabulous since I haven't shortened the line yet so maybe I'm not getting an accurate reading.


hahah ghetto fabulous, is your boost gauge still flopping around your passenger seat with 20 feet of tubing??
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Old May 14, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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You think this off road y-pipe would be better than gutting the cats?

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...cf37d5930c98de


this woulda been tons easier then trying to find used cats and rip them apart n having a shop weld new pipes etccccc. but then i read no ship to cali so id be screwed for that
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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alright guys, ive been reading alot and trying to figure out where the BEST place is to place the wideband o2 sensor.... i was set on after the turbo.... but i was talking to a tuner today and said he always puts it close to the engine. like on the Y pipe. lets come to a final decision here.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffboy757
alright guys, ive been reading alot and trying to figure out where the BEST place is to place the wideband o2 sensor.... i was set on after the turbo.... but i was talking to a tuner today and said he always puts it close to the engine. like on the Y pipe. lets come to a final decision here.
Has this tuner has done a wideband on a few rear-mount setups? I doubt it. These are a whole different beast. Search would tell you that after the turbo is the best place.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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I put mine in the y-pipe...no issues to speak of. My problem with putting in the down pipe was that it could be seeing air from the outside verses just the exhaust coming out. I've seen some cars do pretty freaky things when the o2 sensors see outside air due to leaky exhaust.

Plus, my down pipe fell off a few weeks back while so I'm REALLY GLAD I did not put it there!
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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r u saying that the air the turbo is pulling in, is getting through the compressor and out the exhaust side?? and your talking about a rear mount right??
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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No, I'm saying O2 can come in through the down pipe thus affecting how the O2 sensor reads. Yes, I'm talking about a rear-mount.

Consider long tubes...

You put the front O2's into the long-tubes and if there is a leak at the collector (behind the bung), it can affect how your car runs b/c the O2's are reading outside oxygen coming in from the leak. IMO, the same theory applies here.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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ok guys i am in need of your help. due to me putting this all together myself, i really dont know what to do with the 2 holes on the turbo, and the 2 on the wastegate. i circled them in red. help???? (also check out my turbo build thread to see my progress https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/701342-my-02-camaro-sts-project-buildup-progress-pic.html )


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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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put the wideband after the turbo.

the backpressure will skew the readings if you put it in front is what the consensus is.

are you running a fmic?

if not then the port of the turbo is your source to connect to the wastgate.

if you are using a fmic then get your source from the engine compartment after the fmic.

for connecting the wastegate, I need to go look at mine, that I don't remember off the top of my head.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Connect to the inside connection on the WG (not the one on the end). Page 5 of the STS instructions. that one on the end outside (coming out of the chrome part) should vent to atmosphere. IMO i would just run to the brake booster for WG reference because youll likely wanna add a FMIC at some point anyway so plug the ports on the turbo
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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ok thanks guys im not running a FMIC anytime soon so using the turbo port will have to do for now. and i think my final decision is to put the o2 sensor after the turbo.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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help help help help help!!!

heres what happened, i spent the day installing my turbo, i wanted the turbo mounted, and all oiling done. so i taped in next to the oil filter, and hooked up the 4an line... started the car, oil streamed through like normal. so i hooked it to the top of the turbo. then i set up the oil pump. set it up to come on with the fuel pump, i turn the key to on, and i hear it prime like normal. so i run the line to the oil cap n such.

so bascially everything is setup except the charge pipe isnt going into the throttle body just yet, its just sitting there under the car. i go to start it with the turbo and wastegate etc mounted. and i look under the car and WATER is flying through the exhaust. leaving a big puddle on the ground. i have no idea whats going on???





anyone have ideas???
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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i would say condensation, mine did it too after sitting for a month or so
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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it had only been 8 hours since i last started it, and it was running fine. im calming down alittle more now and i dont think my engine is fryed, becuase i dont think it was collant, it was just clear water, but it cant be condensation, it was hot today, and the water was literally pouring out. ideas????
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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condensation.

mine does it all time, water should stop coming out after a minute or two.

no biggie
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