Kenne Bell supercharger?
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I'm wondering why the blower couldnt be mounted further forward with a manifold that hangs out past the front of the block. Mounting it far enough forward so you have to add a pulley on the end of the balancer would add quite a bit of space to the back. Maybe you couldnt intercool it but isnt the screw compressor efficient enough so that intercooling isnt an absolute requirement?
Even if a supercharger/turbocharger has 100% adiabatic efficiency an intercooler will be beneficial.
Ok.....
Do you want the good news?? Or the good news??
I spent some time on the phone with Jim today, and he said he would be willing to lend a little help on a head unit/manifold setup for the F-Body....
Now before you start freaking out, there are a few things that need to be figured out..
He said yes he can space the drive out .88. He said that he can machine the oil seal/spacer in house on the first one, but he would have to have them custom made out of Sweden or something. This would take about 30 days (IF there was enough intrest.)
So the pulley/drive spacing is all handled.
Also, according to Jim, the Maggie and KB are almost identical in overall height. Theres 2 things that need to be taken into consideration though. 1) How far does the KB sit back on the manifold in relation to the Maggie. 2) Being that the KB is a "Traditional Mount" blower, the T/B ends up being on the side. This means its obviously WIDE. I am not familiar enough with the F-body to what how bad that affects things. (these questions are from me, not him.)
Someone mentioned to me about a different tensioner setup on the F-body. Any additional info would be VERY helpfull..
This DOES NOT mean that KB is going to start making an F-Body kit. This means that KB has said they will do what they can to assist in making a KB tuner kit available.
PLEASE, dont everyone start calling Kenne Bell.. This was a very very general phone conversation, and NOT an agreement to start making a kit...
Do you want the good news?? Or the good news??
I spent some time on the phone with Jim today, and he said he would be willing to lend a little help on a head unit/manifold setup for the F-Body....
Now before you start freaking out, there are a few things that need to be figured out..
He said yes he can space the drive out .88. He said that he can machine the oil seal/spacer in house on the first one, but he would have to have them custom made out of Sweden or something. This would take about 30 days (IF there was enough intrest.)
So the pulley/drive spacing is all handled.
Also, according to Jim, the Maggie and KB are almost identical in overall height. Theres 2 things that need to be taken into consideration though. 1) How far does the KB sit back on the manifold in relation to the Maggie. 2) Being that the KB is a "Traditional Mount" blower, the T/B ends up being on the side. This means its obviously WIDE. I am not familiar enough with the F-body to what how bad that affects things. (these questions are from me, not him.)
Someone mentioned to me about a different tensioner setup on the F-body. Any additional info would be VERY helpfull..
This DOES NOT mean that KB is going to start making an F-Body kit. This means that KB has said they will do what they can to assist in making a KB tuner kit available.
PLEASE, dont everyone start calling Kenne Bell.. This was a very very general phone conversation, and NOT an agreement to start making a kit...
Dimensions on the Whipple 200AX (rear air inlet) are 14.92"L x 6.14"T x 8.86"W. You still need clearance to get air into the rear of this monster.
The 200R has about the same dimensions but the air inlet is on top instead. The rear-fed unit is slightly more efficient and flows slightly better. Both top out above 1500cfm.
I'm ordering the 200AX tomorrow
now that I understand how to make it work with my A2A FMIC. Should be killer on the new 434" SBC.
Jim
The 200R has about the same dimensions but the air inlet is on top instead. The rear-fed unit is slightly more efficient and flows slightly better. Both top out above 1500cfm.
I'm ordering the 200AX tomorrow
now that I understand how to make it work with my A2A FMIC. Should be killer on the new 434" SBC.Jim
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Dimensions on the Whipple 200AX (rear air inlet) are 14.92"L x 6.14"T x 8.86"W. You still need clearance to get air into the rear of this monster.
The 200R has about the same dimensions but the air inlet is on top instead. The rear-fed unit is slightly more efficient and flows slightly better. Both top out above 1500cfm.
I'm ordering the 200AX tomorrow now that I understand how to make it work with my A2A FMIC. Should be killer on the new 434" SBC.
Jim
The 200R has about the same dimensions but the air inlet is on top instead. The rear-fed unit is slightly more efficient and flows slightly better. Both top out above 1500cfm.
I'm ordering the 200AX tomorrow
now that I understand how to make it work with my A2A FMIC. Should be killer on the new 434" SBC.Jim
Cheers
Chris.
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Last edited by DeltaT; Feb 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM. Reason: typo
yes this thread should have died.....
Kenne bell has no intention of making an f-body kit due to the fabrication required. if you really want on take it to your favorite shop and let them cut up your car to make it fit. it can be done but it wont be cheap.
Kenne bell has no intention of making an f-body kit due to the fabrication required. if you really want on take it to your favorite shop and let them cut up your car to make it fit. it can be done but it wont be cheap.
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Thats strange...because in the new issue of GM hitech performance they say that KB has an F-body kit in the works.....wheather or not it will be C.A.R.B EO'd is a mystery....but I have the magazine in front of me....and it says the kit is in the works.....I dunno if this is some speculating on the Mag's part...or it's legit....but its in the Forced induction buyers guide section.....can't miss it....
(I'm not talking about you juiced)
Can anyone coment on this subject....maybe someone with an orange vette that actually talks with Jim Bell on the phone instead of a forum surfer who read about it written in sharpie on a ******* stall somewhere at a job site....not trying to be a dick....money talks and bullshit walks.....just the facts please....
Thats strange...because in the new issue of GM hitech performance they say that KB has an F-body kit in the works.....wheather or not it will be C.A.R.B EO'd is a mystery....but I have the magazine in front of me....and it says the kit is in the works.....I dunno if this is some speculating on the Mag's part...or it's legit....but its in the Forced induction buyers guide section.....can't miss it....
(I'm not talking about you juiced)
Can anyone coment on this subject....maybe someone with an orange vette that actually talks with Jim Bell on the phone instead of a forum surfer who read about it written in sharpie on a ******* stall somewhere at a job site....not trying to be a dick....money talks and bullshit walks.....just the facts please....
(I'm not talking about you juiced)
Can anyone coment on this subject....maybe someone with an orange vette that actually talks with Jim Bell on the phone instead of a forum surfer who read about it written in sharpie on a ******* stall somewhere at a job site....not trying to be a dick....money talks and bullshit walks.....just the facts please....
Well put...
given the oppurtunity to run a KB on my 98 t/a I would. with the torque provided down low, there would be no other option for me.
Thats strange...because in the new issue of GM hitech performance they say that KB has an F-body kit in the works.....wheather or not it will be C.A.R.B EO'd is a mystery....but I have the magazine in front of me....and it says the kit is in the works.....I dunno if this is some speculating on the Mag's part...or it's legit....but its in the Forced induction buyers guide section.....can't miss it....
(I'm not talking about you juiced)
Can anyone coment on this subject....maybe someone with an orange vette that actually talks with Jim Bell on the phone instead of a forum surfer who read about it written in sharpie on a ******* stall somewhere at a job site....not trying to be a dick....money talks and bullshit walks.....just the facts please....
(I'm not talking about you juiced)
Can anyone coment on this subject....maybe someone with an orange vette that actually talks with Jim Bell on the phone instead of a forum surfer who read about it written in sharpie on a ******* stall somewhere at a job site....not trying to be a dick....money talks and bullshit walks.....just the facts please....
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grn dragon you have a pic with a tape on it showing the height dont know why people would disaree with that me and a friend was going to do the same thing and if you lowered the k member and cut the cowl it would fit Jeff we talked to you about the same thing and you had a hard time returing phone calls and replying to our e-mails Ed we delt you with im not sure you can read a tape measure and kenne bell has there pricing way off i asked them the same about there 800 dollar price difference on the c5 kit versus the ls1 kit and they couldnt answer that either and didnt want to help with anything but there blowers are probably the best twin screws but there customer service sucks.