APS TT Kit, Setup
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2002 Firehawk Year Make Model: 2002 Firehawk
Engine-
Block(CI): Forged 403 LS2
Compression: 10.76:1
Oiling: LS6
Crankshaft: Callies Dragonslayer
Connecting Rods: Compstar
Pistons: Diamonds
Cylinder Heads: AFR 205,s Reworked by Tony Mamo with huge low and mid-lift flow increases
Camshaft: Com XER 220/220 581 114 +2
Rocker Arms: Stock (Upgraded pushrods & Valvesprings)
Intake Manifold: Tony Mamo Ported Fast 78 MM
Ignition/Computer: Stock
Exhaust: Corsa Catback with Hooker Y-pipe
Cooling System: Stock & 160 stat
Fuel-
Pump: dual in-tank, Alky control Meth kit
Injectors: Siemens 60lb
Rails: FAST
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: Stock T-56
Clutch/Converter: SPEC 3+ with Aluminum Flywheel
Driveshaft: PST
Rear Axle: Moser 12 bolt, 3.73's,
Chassis-
Front Suspension: UMI K-Member, UMI control arms, Hotchkis swaybar, Hotchkis lowering springs with Koni single adjustable
Rear Suspension: UMI LCA's, BMR Panhard rod, SPOHN torque arm, UMI Reloc brackets, Hotchkis springs, Koni single adjustable
Brakes: Baer Eradispeed with Stock Powder coated calipers
SLP subframe connectors and shock tower brace
Performance-
758 RWTQ at 3,800 rpms, 706 RWHP at 5,500 rpms with 9.2 lbs of boost, huge average power...Torque monster
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Engine-
Block(CI): Forged 403 LS2
Compression: 10.76:1
Oiling: LS6
Crankshaft: Callies Dragonslayer
Connecting Rods: Compstar
Pistons: Diamonds
Cylinder Heads: AFR 205,s Reworked by Tony Mamo with huge low and mid-lift flow increases
Camshaft: Com XER 220/220 581 114 +2
Rocker Arms: Stock (Upgraded pushrods & Valvesprings)
Intake Manifold: Tony Mamo Ported Fast 78 MM
Ignition/Computer: Stock
Exhaust: Corsa Catback with Hooker Y-pipe
Cooling System: Stock & 160 stat
Fuel-
Pump: dual in-tank, Alky control Meth kit
Injectors: Siemens 60lb
Rails: FAST
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: Stock T-56
Clutch/Converter: SPEC 3+ with Aluminum Flywheel
Driveshaft: PST
Rear Axle: Moser 12 bolt, 3.73's,
Chassis-
Front Suspension: UMI K-Member, UMI control arms, Hotchkis swaybar, Hotchkis lowering springs with Koni single adjustable
Rear Suspension: UMI LCA's, BMR Panhard rod, SPOHN torque arm, UMI Reloc brackets, Hotchkis springs, Koni single adjustable
Brakes: Baer Eradispeed with Stock Powder coated calipers
SLP subframe connectors and shock tower brace
Performance-
758 RWTQ at 3,800 rpms, 706 RWHP at 5,500 rpms with 9.2 lbs of boost, huge average power...Torque monster
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APS TT Kit Setup
Year Make Model:2000 T/A WS6
Engine-
Block(CI): Stock
Compression: Stock
Oiling: Stock
Crankshaft: Stock
Connecting Rods: Stock
Pistons: Stock
Cylinder Heads: Stock
Camshaft: Stock
Rocker Arms: Stock
Intake Manifold: Stock
Ignition/Computer: Stock
Exhaust: rusty ole' slowmaster, until I can afford better
Cooling System: Stock
Fuel-
Pump: Racetronix single
Injectors: Precision 42.5#
Rails: Stock
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: T56
Clutch/Converter: I have no idea, but it can't be stock (99K miles and it survived tuning)
Driveshaft: Stock
Rear Axle: Moser 12-bolt
Chassis-
Front Suspension: Mostly stock w/ Bilstein Struts and Hotchkis Sway
Rear Suspension: BMR PHB & LCA, Spohn TA w/ DSL, Bilstein shocks, Hotchkis Sway
Brakes: Stock
Performance-
Horsepower: 481 RWHP
Torque: 513 lb-ft
Had to update now that it's done.
Year Make Model:2000 T/A WS6
Engine-
Block(CI): Stock
Compression: Stock
Oiling: Stock
Crankshaft: Stock
Connecting Rods: Stock
Pistons: Stock
Cylinder Heads: Stock
Camshaft: Stock
Rocker Arms: Stock
Intake Manifold: Stock
Ignition/Computer: Stock
Exhaust: rusty ole' slowmaster, until I can afford better
Cooling System: Stock
Fuel-
Pump: Racetronix single
Injectors: Precision 42.5#
Rails: Stock
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: T56
Clutch/Converter: I have no idea, but it can't be stock (99K miles and it survived tuning)
Driveshaft: Stock
Rear Axle: Moser 12-bolt
Chassis-
Front Suspension: Mostly stock w/ Bilstein Struts and Hotchkis Sway
Rear Suspension: BMR PHB & LCA, Spohn TA w/ DSL, Bilstein shocks, Hotchkis Sway
Brakes: Stock
Performance-
Horsepower: 481 RWHP
Torque: 513 lb-ft
Had to update now that it's done.
Need help here guys. please help
[U]APS TT Kit Setup[/U}
Year Make Model: 2002 CETA
Engine-
Block(CI):ls1 346 or ls2 stock cube or LQ9 stock cube.------this is where i need the help. anyone please
Compression: 9.0
Oiling: dry sump
Crankshaft: callies
Connecting Rods: callies
Pistons: Diamon
Cylinder Heads: afr 205 of afr 225 ported by tony m
Camshaft: ????????
Rocker Arms: stock
Intake Manifold: either fast 90 ported by tony m or wilson manifold
Ignition/Computer: stock
Exhaust: custom
Cooling System: stock
Fuel-
Pump: twin intank 255
Injectors: 85
Rails: fast
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: rebuilt t-56
Clutch/Converter: tex
Driveshaft: steel / carbon fiber if money is left
Rear Axle: new moser M9
Chassis-
Front Suspension: umi k-member and a-arms
Rear Suspension: DKT Performance Lca and panhard
Brakes:
Performance-
Boost: 18 lbs
Horsepower: (XXX rwhp) wish i knew
Torque: (XXX rwtq) wish i knew
[U]APS TT Kit Setup[/U}
Year Make Model: 2002 CETA
Engine-
Block(CI):ls1 346 or ls2 stock cube or LQ9 stock cube.------this is where i need the help. anyone please
Compression: 9.0
Oiling: dry sump
Crankshaft: callies
Connecting Rods: callies
Pistons: Diamon
Cylinder Heads: afr 205 of afr 225 ported by tony m
Camshaft: ????????
Rocker Arms: stock
Intake Manifold: either fast 90 ported by tony m or wilson manifold
Ignition/Computer: stock
Exhaust: custom
Cooling System: stock
Fuel-
Pump: twin intank 255
Injectors: 85
Rails: fast
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: rebuilt t-56
Clutch/Converter: tex
Driveshaft: steel / carbon fiber if money is left
Rear Axle: new moser M9
Chassis-
Front Suspension: umi k-member and a-arms
Rear Suspension: DKT Performance Lca and panhard
Brakes:
Performance-
Boost: 18 lbs
Horsepower: (XXX rwhp) wish i knew
Torque: (XXX rwtq) wish i knew
Well, based on what I've heard about boosted LS2s, specifically one GTOs amazing performance as a daily driver (that can run with liter bikes), I'd say LS2. I think you what to talk to Loboost. If you can't find him here go to ls1gto and look for him.
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Verdad Gallardo Guys, Here's a quick power/torque graph from our 346 cube twin turbo F body. These power figures are from our load based dyno and we estimate that the power would be around 10% higher on a dyno jet dyno, around 860 rwhp, enjoy! 
Peter
Peter
another aps up and running been up and running for a while, just tuning bit by bit. also setting up for e85 fuel.
APS TT Kit Setup
Year Make Model: 01 SS Camaro
Engine-
Block(CI): 346
Compression: stock
Oiling: stock
Crankshaft: stock
Connecting Rods: stock
Pistons: stock
Cylinder Heads: stock 241
Camshaft: stock
Rocker Arms: stock, updated 918s, tr 7.4 rods
Intake Manifold: stock ls6
Ignition/Computer: HPTuner 2 bar speed density
Exhaust: none at the moment-3in true duals, h pipe
Cooling System: stock
Fuel-
Pump: Racetronix/Lonnies double pumper,converted to return system/AFPR
Injectors: Mototron 63#
Rails: speedinc
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: M6
Clutch/Converter: stock LS6
Driveshaft: stock
Rear Axle: stock
Chassis-
Front Suspension: stock / bmr K member
Rear Suspension: SFC/TA relocation / panhard bar relocation
Brakes: stock
Performance-
Horsepower: (XXX rwhp) no dyno yet
Torque: (XXX rwtq)
converting to E85
APS TT Kit Setup
Year Make Model: 01 SS Camaro
Engine-
Block(CI): 346
Compression: stock
Oiling: stock
Crankshaft: stock
Connecting Rods: stock
Pistons: stock
Cylinder Heads: stock 241
Camshaft: stock
Rocker Arms: stock, updated 918s, tr 7.4 rods
Intake Manifold: stock ls6
Ignition/Computer: HPTuner 2 bar speed density
Exhaust: none at the moment-3in true duals, h pipe
Cooling System: stock
Fuel-
Pump: Racetronix/Lonnies double pumper,converted to return system/AFPR
Injectors: Mototron 63#
Rails: speedinc
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: M6
Clutch/Converter: stock LS6
Driveshaft: stock
Rear Axle: stock
Chassis-
Front Suspension: stock / bmr K member
Rear Suspension: SFC/TA relocation / panhard bar relocation
Brakes: stock
Performance-
Horsepower: (XXX rwhp) no dyno yet
Torque: (XXX rwtq)
converting to E85
Last edited by mterveen; Dec 2, 2007 at 01:58 PM.
Peter that is great numbers but how about some more exact details now.
Is that withthe afr 225 heads think the small chamber or the 72cc size?
Is that the gt7 cam in there still?
What boost is that? Can you give afr and or some timing info. Was that pump gas or meth or what?
Was that fast intake a 78 or 90mm?
Are you going to play with any different cams in the motor like think you originally planned?
What clutch are your currently running since you said other one would not hold the power?
And think you said you are running your twin pump fuel system with the add on rail/line option? Would like to see the afr numbers to see how the fuel system is holding up.
Also looks like power drops off pretty quickly past 6000.Is that due to the cam you are using? The gt7 doesn't make any real power past 6000? Or was there some other thing .Would have liked to see the graph going to 6500 or so.
Is that withthe afr 225 heads think the small chamber or the 72cc size?
Is that the gt7 cam in there still?
What boost is that? Can you give afr and or some timing info. Was that pump gas or meth or what?
Was that fast intake a 78 or 90mm?
Are you going to play with any different cams in the motor like think you originally planned?
What clutch are your currently running since you said other one would not hold the power?
And think you said you are running your twin pump fuel system with the add on rail/line option? Would like to see the afr numbers to see how the fuel system is holding up.
Also looks like power drops off pretty quickly past 6000.Is that due to the cam you are using? The gt7 doesn't make any real power past 6000? Or was there some other thing .Would have liked to see the graph going to 6500 or so.
Thanks,
Peter
Peter that is great numbers but how about some more exact details now.
Is that withthe afr 225 heads think the small chamber or the 72cc size?
Is that the gt7 cam in there still?
What boost is that? Can you give afr and or some timing info. Was that pump gas or meth or what?
Was that fast intake a 78 or 90mm?
Are you going to play with any different cams in the motor like think you originally planned?
What clutch are your currently running since you said other one would not hold the power?
And think you said you are running your twin pump fuel system with the add on rail/line option? Would like to see the afr numbers to see how the fuel system is holding up.
Also looks like power drops off pretty quickly past 6000.Is that due to the cam you are using? The gt7 doesn't make any real power past 6000? Or was there some other thing .Would have liked to see the graph going to 6500 or so.
Is that withthe afr 225 heads think the small chamber or the 72cc size?
Is that the gt7 cam in there still?
What boost is that? Can you give afr and or some timing info. Was that pump gas or meth or what?
Was that fast intake a 78 or 90mm?
Are you going to play with any different cams in the motor like think you originally planned?
What clutch are your currently running since you said other one would not hold the power?
And think you said you are running your twin pump fuel system with the add on rail/line option? Would like to see the afr numbers to see how the fuel system is holding up.
Also looks like power drops off pretty quickly past 6000.Is that due to the cam you are using? The gt7 doesn't make any real power past 6000? Or was there some other thing .Would have liked to see the graph going to 6500 or so.
1) Forged Mahle pistons, comp ratio is 9.2:1 with AFR 225 64 cc chambers.
2) Forged Oliver con rods,
3) stock crank,
4) AFR 225 64 CC cyl heads,
5) 90 mm fast intake manifold,
6) 90 mm throttle body,
7) ARP fasteners,
8) GT 11 cam shaft,
9) APS twin pump fuel system,
10) Meth injection system,
11) Custom Twin plate clutch,
12) 20 PSI boost,
13) AFR 11.1 at peak torque, 12:1 at peak power,
14) Ignition timing 14 - 16 degrees,
Hope that helps,
Peter
Last edited by peter@aps; Nov 12, 2007 at 10:44 PM. Reason: combstion chamber size was incorrect
Excellent Peter on those spec list. Do you have any personal experience on how lopey that gt11 cam is.I think may sell off my gt7 and get the gt11, the gt7 does seem a bit smallish,especially since going a bit bigger than your 346.
Oh couple more questions for you. Fuel pressure you are running and size of injectors you are running.
Oh couple more questions for you. Fuel pressure you are running and size of injectors you are running.
Engine- LS2
Block(CI): 402
Compression: 9:0:1
Oiling:Meling,moroso oil pan
Crankshaft:Callies
Connecting Rods:Callies
Pistons:Wiesco
Cylinder Heads:Trick flow 235's, L19 head studs, Fel pro gaskets
Camshaft: Custom (Cam motion)
Rocker Arms: Yella Terra
Intake Manifold: Vic JR ported and matched by LME
Ignition/Computer:Stock
Exhaust: Lethal performance true duals out the back with borla XR1's and DMH cutouts
Cooling System: Stock
Fuel- Nasty Performance Fuel system
Pump: Magnafuel 4303
Injectors:Mototron 60# / 96# versafueler
Rails: Edelbrock
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission:4L80 MVB with lock up
Clutch/Converter: Pro Yank 3400 extreme
Driveshaft:ACPT carbon
Rear Axle:moser 9"
Chassis-
Front Suspension:BMR K member,UMI A arm's,QA1's,BMR T arm
Rear Suspension: QA1's,LCA's,BMR panhard relocation kit,BMR panhard
Brakes:
Performance-
Horsepower: (XXX rwhp)
Torque: (XXX rwtq)
Block(CI): 402
Compression: 9:0:1
Oiling:Meling,moroso oil pan
Crankshaft:Callies
Connecting Rods:Callies
Pistons:Wiesco
Cylinder Heads:Trick flow 235's, L19 head studs, Fel pro gaskets
Camshaft: Custom (Cam motion)
Rocker Arms: Yella Terra
Intake Manifold: Vic JR ported and matched by LME
Ignition/Computer:Stock
Exhaust: Lethal performance true duals out the back with borla XR1's and DMH cutouts
Cooling System: Stock
Fuel- Nasty Performance Fuel system
Pump: Magnafuel 4303
Injectors:Mototron 60# / 96# versafueler
Rails: Edelbrock
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission:4L80 MVB with lock up
Clutch/Converter: Pro Yank 3400 extreme
Driveshaft:ACPT carbon
Rear Axle:moser 9"
Chassis-
Front Suspension:BMR K member,UMI A arm's,QA1's,BMR T arm
Rear Suspension: QA1's,LCA's,BMR panhard relocation kit,BMR panhard
Brakes:
Performance-
Horsepower: (XXX rwhp)
Torque: (XXX rwtq)
Peter
To the top: APS numbers APS TT Kit Setup
Year Make Model: 2004 GTO
Engine-
Block(CI): 402ci
Compression: 10.3
Oiling: Melling 10296
Crankshaft: Eagle
Connecting Rods: compstar 6.125
Pistons: Diamond 11520
Cylinder Heads: Dart 225
Camshaft: 225/225 .581/.581 113
Rocker Arms: stock
Intake Manifold: FAST 90
Ignition/Computer: stock
Exhaust: Magnaflow
Cooling System:stock
Fuel-
Pump: 2x walbro 255 inline, 2nd pump run by hobbs switch/relay
Injectors:60lbs hr.
Rails:speed inc.
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: M12 t56
Clutch/Converter: RPS Stage 3+
Driveshaft: BMR
Rear Axle: stock GTO 3.46 BMR axles
Chassis-
Front Suspension: stock
Rear Suspension: stock
Brakes: stock
Performance-
Horsepower: 635rwhp @ 5800 7psi
Torque: 645rwtq @ 4500rpm
Year Make Model: 2004 GTO
Engine-
Block(CI): 402ci
Compression: 10.3
Oiling: Melling 10296
Crankshaft: Eagle
Connecting Rods: compstar 6.125
Pistons: Diamond 11520
Cylinder Heads: Dart 225
Camshaft: 225/225 .581/.581 113
Rocker Arms: stock
Intake Manifold: FAST 90
Ignition/Computer: stock
Exhaust: Magnaflow
Cooling System:stock
Fuel-
Pump: 2x walbro 255 inline, 2nd pump run by hobbs switch/relay
Injectors:60lbs hr.
Rails:speed inc.
Drive train/Transmission-
Transmission: M12 t56
Clutch/Converter: RPS Stage 3+
Driveshaft: BMR
Rear Axle: stock GTO 3.46 BMR axles
Chassis-
Front Suspension: stock
Rear Suspension: stock
Brakes: stock
Performance-
Horsepower: 635rwhp @ 5800 7psi
Torque: 645rwtq @ 4500rpm
The graph looks good, but why are you losing 200 ft lbs of TQ in about 1500 RPMs? Are the turbos too small?
