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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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Default 8# procharger even worth considering???

Just curious, would my engine blow up after 30k mi. with a procharger? If you were looking for a mid 10 second street driveable car, what mods would you do? I want my car to be reliable, sure stuff breaks over time, but I don't want to spend a butload of money just to have my motor blow up. Do you suggest heads/cam combo over SC? Help me decide what the best/cheapest route to go is, and I know there is no cheap route, I said cheapest.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Hey Micheal this is Corry. We met at TIR about a month ago. I am the one with the pewter SS. You probably wont get much feedback by posting that because its been posted many times. Doing a search will help you much more. But for some basics I think that heads and cam are more reliable and cheaper. It seems to me though that many of the cars with blowers/turbos are making more power and are easily upgradable. If you want to run more than 5lbs of boost with a procharger you might want to lower the compression ratio for better reliability. I struggled with the choice between a supercharger and heads and cam for about 2 years. I did a ton of research and decided I to get a turbo instead Its the most expensive but makes tons of power. Some of the guys that have used the kit i am getting are running around 11.4 @125 I ordered my kit a couple of weeks ago and it should be here in about a month. We should meet up again when I get it on and i will take you for a ride Good luck with whatever you go with and if you have more specific questions feel free to contact me.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Heads and cam will get you to the 11s much cheaper than a Blower. However, spinning the motor up to 6800 RPMs is going to shorten it's life. Most Heads and cam cars need to spin that high to see all there horsepower.

A blower gives you more options, more to tune, and more to play with. it also gives you the ability to go beyond what a heads and cam setup will do.

Every really fast heads and cam car I know is using nitrous and serious weight reduction. Most blower/turbo cars have full interiors and are very streetable. With FI power is not the problem, longevity is. With a safe tune you can run an 8# procharger no problem. Keep in mind the safer your tune the less power you are seeing from your boost. Right now I have my timing retarded 10* at WOT and I'm seeing less knock now than when I was N/A. Granted I'm still in the early stages and trying to tweak the tune to see more power without detonation, but still my motor is running stronger and safer now than when it was N/A.

It's true low compression heads help tremendously. That's something I plan to do at the end of the season. Then I can up the psi a little, advance my timing, and still run on 93/94 octane.

I guess it all depends on where you want to get to and how extreme you want your car to be. A heads/cam/N2O/weight reduction setup is by far the cheapest route to get to the 10s. Some people want that power all the time, ie no N2O. Some people still want to take a date out in their car, ie no serious weight reduction.

FI is rarely the cheapest option but sometimes it's the best.

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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buschman, very nice ride, man!
What kind of times are you running?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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No times yet. I just got the blower on and am still working on a base tune before going on the dyno. You've probably seen me in here before as Blown Hawk. I used that name until I got the blower on. Now that it's on I'm going back to my original name :p But I will definitely let you guys know how she is running when I get some numbers to put up.

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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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ok, so I can get more power with a SC. I was thinking about an 8# procharger. Later, do a heads/cam package. Will that get me into the 10's? It'll be a while before I can afford this, but I want to learn all I can now. Thanks.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:53 AM
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My bet is with an A4 and a moderate stall along with the mods you mentioned(S/C, Heads, Cam), 10s shouldn't be a problem.

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But dont forget about your drivetrain. You can have a perfectly tuned 8# engine and it aint worth a damn if you blow your tranny or diff out at the track. My motto is be prepaired, strengthen the drivetrain first.
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