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Old 12-16-2007, 09:21 PM
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i know you can make huge power with just meth and no intercooler. can you do the same with e85 and no intercooler? talking 1000+rwhp.
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i would think so considering its mostly alky. not AS much but still have the same effects as you would running pure alky.
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It would be interesting to try, but it won't pull the latent heat like methanol will from the intake charge. Use caution, test it and tell us what happens!


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Just be careful Jim
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How big would the injector be for 1000 hp on just e85 ? My guess would be close to 200#. WOW
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Originally Posted by BigJls1
How big would the injector be for 1000 hp on just e85 ? My guess would be close to 200#. WOW
Unless you did a 16 injector setup.. With a BS3 that is possible...
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Originally Posted by BigJls1
How big would the injector be for 1000 hp on just e85 ? My guess would be close to 200#. WOW
probably a little smaller than just meth. going to start with 8 160's and see how far that gets us. step up when they run out.

i dont know that i want to be the guy living on the edge, probably try and intercool our latest project or run meth. going to start a new thread on meth.
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oneone with a C5 was doing just that. he was running a 408 with a F2 all on E85. think he made close to 1200bhp, cant remeber.

thanks Chris.
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Why not just inter-cool it???
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Originally Posted by ninetres
Why not just inter-cool it???
just looking at all options.
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Here you go

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...835&highlight=

The contest had 7 competitors all running E85 with no intercoolers and all making 1200+
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would be interesting to see-

what about trying e98-

u guys are luckly at least u can get the e85-e98-we can't
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I know that alcohol takes alot to detonate. My instructor in college builds top notch tractor pulling trucks with blown alcohol hemis. They run 12.5-1 compression and 55-60 lbs of boost thru a 14-71 hi helix blower. He says that if he could spin the blower faster he would. That says alot for detonation resistance. He is a well known with the nitro guys and has a huge name in the hemis and builds 2wd tractor pulling trucks. 3 time crew chief of the year when he was with the kodiac sled. he has no reason to lie. So i believe him.
In college we also had a tractor pulling tractor that was a six cylinder diesel block that has staged GIANT turbos ran 100+lbs of boost and made 3000 hp. Once again alchy is where its at. I just wish they sold e85 around me. But they dont.
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no pressure drop from the intercooler. less wieght. less pipes to blow. no cutting of the car, and complete stealth. wow i might just can the cold side of my project.
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Originally Posted by 2002_z28_m6
I know that alcohol takes alot to detonate. My instructor in college builds top notch tractor pulling trucks with blown alcohol hemis. They run 12.5-1 compression and 55-60 lbs of boost thru a 14-71 hi helix blower. He says that if he could spin the blower faster he would. That says alot for detonation resistance. He is a well known with the nitro guys and has a huge name in the hemis and builds 2wd tractor pulling trucks. 3 time crew chief of the year when he was with the kodiac sled. he has no reason to lie. So i believe him.
In college we also had a tractor pulling tractor that was a six cylinder diesel block that has staged GIANT turbos ran 100+lbs of boost and made 3000 hp. Once again alchy is where its at. I just wish they sold e85 around me. But they dont.
i think when these guys say alkey that they are talking about meth. not e85. i have seen enough info to know meth can make the power without an intercooler. just dont know about e85.
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Originally Posted by No Juice
Here you go

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...835&highlight=

The contest had 7 competitors all running E85 with no intercoolers and all making 1200+
nice. that looks promising. 1200rwhp driving that belt... hmm.
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I have the C5 from the contest. It make 1200rwhp on E85 with no intercooler. I am not planning on running one but will prob have to run water injection on it to get the IAT's down on the steet. I am using 160lb injectors and was at about 90% duty cylcle at 1200hp. I only made it to 5000rpm before I ran out of pump. If I had gone to 7000 I would have been out of injector. The guy with the Rambler in the contest had a set of 240lb injectors that he got from an outlaw or pro5.0 guy( I think Steve Petty). He was making 1640 and still had some injector left. It is definetly doable and reliable. I've been running E85 for 3 years now and its flex fuel, have had no problems caused by the fuel.
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Originally Posted by MoreJuice
I have the C5 from the contest. It make 1200rwhp on E85 with no intercooler. I am not planning on running one but will prob have to run water injection on it to get the IAT's down on the steet. I am using 160lb injectors and was at about 90% duty cylcle at 1200hp. I only made it to 5000rpm before I ran out of pump. If I had gone to 7000 I would have been out of injector. The guy with the Rambler in the contest had a set of 240lb injectors that he got from an outlaw or pro5.0 guy( I think Steve Petty). He was making 1640 and still had some injector left. It is definetly doable and reliable. I've been running E85 for 3 years now and its flex fuel, have had no problems caused by the fuel.
how much does e85 or e95 cost-
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I believe it is about $2.80 in the Chicagoland area right now.
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Originally Posted by njc.corp
would be interesting to see-

what about trying e98-

u guys are luckly at least u can get the e85-e98-we can't
dont feel bad, half the country here cant get e85 either. closest station that sells it is a tank and a half away from me...


ps- are people in other countrys going to start calling american cars "corn burners"?


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