ST80 problem....poop.
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I know I had a similar problem with the S91. The compressor wheel was touching the housing. Upon further instructions from Jose, I removed the comp. housing and recentered. Bingo, everything was all good. It seems the tolerances from wheel to housing is small and bearing play is big. So you've got to be dead on. Could be something easy like mine.
I have already sent this turbo back once because it was rubbing on the housing.....and again for a race cover swap. Removing the turbo is no "easy" task on my car. I need to take 2s cold pipes off (with 2 meth fittings), the DP, and the crossover.....which is no easy task on my back in my garage. My cold piping also lacks a flex portion so re-installation is kinda a bitch.
#22
Yours might have been easy....mine would not be so easy.
I have already sent this turbo back once because it was rubbing on the housing.....and again for a race cover swap. Removing the turbo is no "easy" task on my car. I need to take 2s cold pipes off (with 2 meth fittings), the DP, and the crossover.....which is no easy task on my back in my garage. My cold piping also lacks a flex portion so re-installation is kinda a bitch.
I have already sent this turbo back once because it was rubbing on the housing.....and again for a race cover swap. Removing the turbo is no "easy" task on my car. I need to take 2s cold pipes off (with 2 meth fittings), the DP, and the crossover.....which is no easy task on my back in my garage. My cold piping also lacks a flex portion so re-installation is kinda a bitch.
#23
I know I had a similar problem with the S91. The compressor wheel was touching the housing. Upon further instructions from Jose, I removed the comp. housing and recentered. Bingo, everything was all good. It seems the tolerances from wheel to housing is small and bearing play is big. So you've got to be dead on. Could be something easy like mine.
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I know I had a similar problem with the S91. The compressor wheel was touching the housing. Upon further instructions from Jose, I removed the comp. housing and recentered. Bingo, everything was all good. It seems the tolerances from wheel to housing is small and bearing play is big. So you've got to be dead on. Could be something easy like mine.
***UPDATE***
I have the same problem as you firechickn (again). I just took the filter off and the wheel is rubbing the housing again. Seems to be a lot of shaft play.....which I addressed months ago with Jose who said it was okay. My tech estimated about 1/32" just from wiggling it.
I'll get it off in the next week or so and ship it to ya Jose. Thanks for the phone call and help! Much appreciated.
#26
I'm still here lurking. The car should be somewhere close to 850 right now on straight pump. I'm running about 1-1.5 lbs more now then when I dynoed. I just swapped the greatly abused t-56 for a 4l80. I'll likely be going to the track tomorrow for a few shake down passes, and alot of suspension readjustment. The t-56 was hooking good, but with the auto, I'm spin happy. I'll likely be retuning soon on some good gas and meth. Haven't really had a need to until now. I was beating everyone I ran on low boost.
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***UPDATE***
I have the same problem as you firechickn (again). I just took the filter off and the wheel is rubbing the housing again. Seems to be a lot of shaft play.....which I addressed months ago with Jose who said it was okay. My tech estimated about 1/32" just from wiggling it.
I'll get it off in the next week or so and ship it to ya Jose. Thanks for the phone call and help! Much appreciated.
I have the same problem as you firechickn (again). I just took the filter off and the wheel is rubbing the housing again. Seems to be a lot of shaft play.....which I addressed months ago with Jose who said it was okay. My tech estimated about 1/32" just from wiggling it.
I'll get it off in the next week or so and ship it to ya Jose. Thanks for the phone call and help! Much appreciated.
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#31
Yours might have been easy....mine would not be so easy.
I have already sent this turbo back once because it was rubbing on the housing.....and again for a race cover swap. Removing the turbo is no "easy" task on my car. I need to take 2s cold pipes off (with 2 meth fittings), the DP, and the crossover.....which is no easy task on my back in my garage. My cold piping also lacks a flex portion so re-installation is kinda a bitch.
I have already sent this turbo back once because it was rubbing on the housing.....and again for a race cover swap. Removing the turbo is no "easy" task on my car. I need to take 2s cold pipes off (with 2 meth fittings), the DP, and the crossover.....which is no easy task on my back in my garage. My cold piping also lacks a flex portion so re-installation is kinda a bitch.
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1. ordered turbo
2. received turbo with wheel rubbing housing and what I thought was excessive shaft play.
3. Sent back for adjustment. Came back not rubbing, but still had a good bit of shaft play. Jose assured me this was normal.
4. Sent back in for race cover (still never ran)
5. Came back not rubbing but still had lots of shaft play.
6. Installed and ran ~25 miles. Started rubbing, especially once hot.
7. Just removed it today to send in tomorrow.
I would ask (very nicely of course ) for a entirely new unit, but I'm not sure if you guys still produce the same hot side. I have the big ol' funky v-band and can not afford to have my fabricator switch the flange (again).
#34
I'm easy bro just want you to be taken care of and I have trust in FI they have taken care of me before when I was having oiling issues with my TC76 both Dr Turbo and Jz have great customer service and respect their customers very much I could tell. They pay great attention to customer service!!! Cheers to Forced Inductions. Everyone I know that has a boosted car I refer to forced inductions.
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I'm easy bro just want you to be taken care of and I have trust in FI they have taken care of me before when I was having oiling issues with my TC76 both Dr Turbo and Jz have great customer service and respect their customers very much I could tell. They pay great attention to customer service!!! Cheers to Forced Inductions. Everyone I know that has a boosted car I refer to forced inductions.
#37
I'm not Jose, but I can answer this..... We have a lower failure rate then most of the turbo manufactures.Out of the 700+ BW S and ST's we have sold only 18 so far have come back and 19 with this one. Average failure rate for manufactures is 4-6%. I can tell you this....one the largest dealers of BW's in the middleeast that was buying BW's from another distributor bought 36 S400's and S480's.....so far 19 of them have failed . We are rebuilding them for them one at a time now. S400's are durable when built correctly. Also get on the import forums like Evo forum which use alot of the S400's. One dealer on there bought 3 units from a large BW distributor...blew all three of them on the dyno the same day. We haven't had those issues since their are a good bit of changes we do to them, and so far they seem to work great and better then most of the others.
#39
I'm not Jose, but I can answer this..... We have a lower failure rate then most of the turbo manufactures.Out of the 700+ BW S and ST's we have sold only 18 so far have come back and 19 with this one. Average failure rate for manufactures is 4-6%. I can tell you this....one the largest dealers of BW's in the middleeast that was buying BW's from another distributor bought 36 S400's and S480's.....so far 19 of them have failed . We are rebuilding them for them one at a time now. S400's are durable when built correctly. Also get on the import forums like Evo forum which use alot of the S400's. One dealer on there bought 3 units from a large BW distributor...blew all three of them on the dyno the same day. We haven't had those issues since their are a good bit of changes we do to them, and so far they seem to work great and better then most of the others.
Who is this other 'large dealer' and what do you do differently?
#40
Here is a complete writeup of it on the forum......all 3 units bit the dust on the dyno.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...highlight=s372
You can see JZ fixed their problem.........
Alot more goes into the units depending on the setup.......
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...highlight=s372
You can see JZ fixed their problem.........
Alot more goes into the units depending on the setup.......