VENGEANCE

I used to have a th400, i switched back to a t56. All in preference.

Zombie

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It is preference, and my preference is to have my car go as fast and as quick as possible without breaking constantly like T56 transmissions and clutches seem to do, the A3 trans fit the criteria perfectly. On a fast spooling 500 rwhp setup, the t56 is a lot of fun though. I definately dislike them on slower spooling setups though.

Have you run your setup at the track yet? Curious to see how your combo does being a 6spd.

I will say that manuals feel faster than autos. Rode in my friends TT C5 the other night, felt faster than my car but after doing an accelleration comparison it's not the case. His goes 75-125 about 2.5-3sec slower than my car which really suprised me. About the same RPM range and then stab the throttle. I did mine in 5 sec, he did his in 7.5-8 sec. Big difference, but his felt faster to me.

stevieturbo

Ive been manual since I went LS1, some 4 years ago.


Ive never broken a gearbox or clutch yet.

ninetres

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How many miles do you drive per year? You honestly have never replaced your clutch? What kind? Were you always a 10 second car? Doesn't make since. You are way outta the "norm" for high horse T-56 cars.

Bird-Of-Prey

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I guess my search might have been too narrow. I searched "auto vs manual" and "auto manual" to broaden it but only came up with two useful links. Thanks for these. This is the first time I've considered swapping to an auto. I wasn't looking for what's better but who has what and why they prefer it.

Bird-Of-Prey

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Yeah I probably shouldn't have made it a poll. I meant for street to actually mean street/strip. And track to be a track only car.

stevieturbo

In 2006, when I ran my best times, I did about 10,000 miles.
2007....maybe only 4-5000. This year so far, only about 2,000

Of course I have changed my clutch, but not because of problems. I just wanted to. I did 10k on my OZ700, and ran my fastest times on it, and a totally stock T56.
I only changed the clutch to a triple....as I was upgrading the T56 at the same time, paranoid about one or the other giving problems, after reading about people here having issues.
The clutch was IMO only just broke in when I removed it. I still have the clutch and my old T56 as a spare ( upgraded primarily for a stronger output shaft )

I ran my first 10's in June 2006...and have done perhaps 40-45 or so 10s runs since then, and a few slower runs thrown in, as well as road miles, a brief dyno spell this year, a couple of mile events etc.

Im not particularly abusive towards a car. I dont launch as hard as I probably should ( bests are 1.7x ), although I am trying to rectify that. Its not easy to remain committed to a near WOT launch !!!!
I dont try and flat shift, or any crap like that.

Perhaps a little mechanical sympathy goes a long way.....as well as choosing some decent parts.

The only drivetrain problems I have had, is twisting the damn Moser shafts in my 8.8", although I have never had a problem that has left me stranded at the track. Its always got me there, and home again.

I hope me new MW shafts will have sorted the shaft twisting problem.

ninetres

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^^^^ Makes more sense.

ddnspider

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im calling BS on that 1 unless youre making over 1000 rwhp.otherwise they couldnt drive to save their life.I watched a turbo busa walk away from an 800rwhp nitrous corvette that was an auto.

and to stay on topic.im sure having a th400/auto is awesome for a mostly track car.but for a car that rarely seeing the track i prefer a stick.i have a t56 and just put in a new clutch from a different company,doing a little experimenting

VENGEANCE

I agree 100% that an auto is faster going down the 1/4, theres not any debating that.

A th210 vs the 6 speed in my car would probably make the difference from 8's to 7's if i felt the need to do it (which im sure i will eventually).

As far as on the highway against some big single supras or busas, the 4th and 5th gears of the T56 is going to put you out on top though from my experience. Once a 3 speed hits about 160 or so on the highway, a t56 car making comparable power all things being equal (say 1600 in a 6 speed vs 1400 in an auto) is going to come on hard on the top end.

Its all in what you want really though. I loved my manual valve body TH400, but I respect a guy that shifts his car more than I do an auto. not to say an auto car "isnt cool" or "isnt fast", but a shifted car takes entirely more skill to drive. Theres also not much debating that.

VENGEANCE

He is making over 1000whp.

pwnt.

bboyferal

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Oooh... Please, tell me!

Mekkadon

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I'm running a 3.08 on a TH400 and cruising in 70MPH is 2900- 3000RPM I think (according to the stock tach). My converter is a Vig 3000 stall. Not too bad. This is on a 275-40/17 tire.

ddnspider

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ahhhhh no.he gets on here and goes "i beat n20 and turbo busas" with no sig or saying what he has so somebody had to say it.

and bboy....i already have a thread about it in the manual section

Zombie

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lines like this always crack me up when I hear them LOL I mean seriously, if you aren't ahead by 160 on the street, the race is over, unless you guys are playing first one to 200mph lol

VENGEANCE

Why? Turbo cars trap near 200mph now, why should the race be over at 160? Besides, alot of bikes prefer top end runs. Two friends of mine actually went from a 120-200mph roll (supra and a bike).

Maybe if youre rolling with a 600whp car the race is over at 150 or so, but alot of people I know dont hook on the street until 100+mph.

before you LOL your head off your shoulders maybe you should get out a bit more. With a trap speed of only about 130mph @ 19lbs, i can see why you personally wouldnt want to go past 160. When my car was a 530whp 347, 150 hit of gas th400 car it went the same time as your turbo car.

ninetres

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You sound like an idiot. Just FYI. The only cars trapping near 200mph are the all out $100k+ drag cars that are sponsored. Keep freeway racing supras bro with your mad tyte shifts!!!!!!!

sciff5

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I think an automatic is more practical in every sense, at the track and on the street.. but I love driving a 6 speed. I am also going to be using my car for autox and road course so a 6sp makes a little more sense.

Also if I was going any bigger than a Tc76/TC78 I'de go with the auto.. but those with some spray will make WAYYY more power than my suspension is capable of handling.

code4

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Dayum, I guess I'm slow too. Doing rolls from 100 to 200 MPH is out of my league.

I don't think there is a highway flat enough around here.

Zombie

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Keep going dude, this is stuff is comedy gold!

I wish I got mad respect from all my peeps, but I have an auto and street car that only runs 10s