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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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I got a 98 turbo c5 just trying to find out if i need the siemens cone style or pencil give me some feed back and tell me which works better . Im going to need 60 pound injector for my application if that makes a differance.
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I got a 98 turbo c5 just trying to find out if i need the siemens cone style or pencil give me some feed back and tell me which works better . Im going to need 60 pound injector for my application if that makes a differance.
THE 60 SIEMENS deka only comes with a 20d cone. Its been perfect for ls based engines. i have a detailed PDF showing the pattern and concentration of the injector. give me your e mail i will send it to you
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For Eldelbrock LS-XT. I found the injectors #60 is direct plug and play. I am planning to buy it. The injector guy seller his name is Jimmy. If you know him. www.ElColasMotorSports.com
Home of the custom 60lb Multech II injectors
That one he sell for injectors. I wonder if those #60 with direct plug will work on eldelbrock ls xt intake mainfold? This is for my 06 silverado truck.
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for eldelbrock ls-xt. I found the injectors #60 is direct plug and play. I am planning to buy it. The injector guy seller his name is jimmy. If you know him. www.elcolasmotorsports.com
home of the custom 60lb multech ii injectors
that one he sell for injectors. I wonder if those #60 with direct plug will work on eldelbrock ls xt intake mainfold? This is for my 06 silverado truck.
we have a plug and play truck injector with the wire harness adapter. They are 60@3bar or we also have them at 60 @ 4 bar.
440 with the wire harness
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Bought my 60# from FIC, awesome guy to deal with! And FAST shipping!
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
we have a plug and play truck injector with the wire harness adapter. They are 60@3bar or we also have them at 60 @ 4 bar.
440 with the wire harness
I couldnt understand why two different with 3 and 4 bars which one I suppose to have one for my truck? Wonder these injectors will work on the intake I just info you about new intake manifold XL eldbrock
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
I couldnt understand why two different with 3 and 4 bars which one I suppose to have one for my truck? Wonder these injectors will work on the intake I just info you about new intake manifold XL eldbrock
IF THAT INTAKE USES THE STOCK TRUCK RAILS THESE WILL DROP RIGHT IN. wE USE THE bOSCH INJECTOR NOT THE mULTEC II
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
IF THAT INTAKE USES THE STOCK TRUCK RAILS THESE WILL DROP RIGHT IN. wE USE THE bOSCH INJECTOR NOT THE mULTEC II
No this is AFTERMARKET intake manifold which is eldelbrock ls-xt. Thats why I need to know about injectors fitting. THey will come aftermarket eldelbrock fuel rails. Now it make clear to you? The stock rails will not work on aftermarket intake. ThaT what people told me. Also I need to know why two different 3 and 4 maps?? Which should I have on my truck?
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
They are 60@3bar or we also have them at 60 @ 4 bar.
Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
I couldnt understand why two different with 3 and 4 bars which one I suppose to have one for my truck?
Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
Also I need to know why two different 3 and 4 maps?? Which should I have on my truck?
Not talking about the MAP sensor.
Talking about fluid pressure, in your case Fuel.
1 bar = 14.50326 psi
F-Bodys run at 3 bar from the factory and i think the trucks also do.

FIC said they have two injectors:
60# @ 3bar (injector 1)
&
60# @ 4bar (injector 2)

This means if you run injector 2 @ 3bar you will be flowing less than 60#s.
It also means that if you run injector 1 @ 4bar you will flow more than 60#s.

3 bar = 43.509 psi
4 bar = 58.012 psi

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
No this is AFTERMARKET intake manifold which is eldelbrock ls-xt. Thats why I need to know about injectors fitting. THey will come aftermarket eldelbrock fuel rails. Now it make clear to you? The stock rails will not work on aftermarket intake. ThaT what people told me. Also I need to know why two different 3 and 4 maps?? Which should I have on my truck?
the post above should explain that there are 2 different injectors available in 60#. If the manifold manufacturer says that the std truck injector fits then these will also.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
the post above should explain that there are 2 different injectors available in 60#. If the manifold manufacturer says that the std truck injector fits then these will also.
I dont think they do for std. Have to be different and be thin injector. I have no idea which one I should stick with 3 or 4bars. FOr my n/a ls1 motor and later turbo. As well need 60# but dont know which need stick with 3 or 4 bars? Let me know if anyone know what best for my project. Hey I can see you from cumming Ga which it closer to me.
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
I dont think they do for std. Have to be different and be thin injector. I have no idea which one I should stick with 3 or 4bars. FOr my n/a ls1 motor and later turbo. As well need 60# but dont know which need stick with 3 or 4 bars? Let me know if anyone know what best for my project. Hey I can see you from cumming Ga which it closer to me.
if you tell me how much chp you are making i can tell you
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
if you tell me how much chp you are making i can tell you
for daily drive around 450 and on track tweek up to 700 or where it will be max out on ls1 motor/turbo. Do you have idea which injectors need find right one to make it work direct fit on eldbrock intake? Also I want to know there is wire injector just plug and play. Or have to extra wire to be adapter?
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