New Racetronix Pump, requires 2 starts.
#1
New Racetronix Pump, requires 2 starts.
Put in a new Racetronix pump with some edelbrock fuel rails going to an adjustable fuel pressure regulator which is set at 59 PSI.
I have to "prime" the system by turning the key off and back on as the pressure drops fairly quickly. I remove the stock FPR that is in the tank when I put the adjustable on.
I was thinking a toggle switch to actuate the fuel pump relay so I don't have to key on twice. What is everyone else doing?
I have to "prime" the system by turning the key off and back on as the pressure drops fairly quickly. I remove the stock FPR that is in the tank when I put the adjustable on.
I was thinking a toggle switch to actuate the fuel pump relay so I don't have to key on twice. What is everyone else doing?
#3
I'm not familiar with the F-body fuel system but it sounds like you removed a check valve when you upgraded your parts. You probably need to install a check valve to prevent the system from loosing its prime while the car is not running.
#4
Thanks man
#5
I tossed in a earls check valve
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-251006ERL
Now, the pressure stays up long enough for me to start it but I still have to be very quick about it when I start it otherwise the pressure drops down to around 20-30 fairly quickly.
Is there a specific way check valves should be mounted when they utilize a flapper? I currently have it mounted vertically close to the fuel rails on a return system as there was a convenient spot for it.
Would it be worth my trouble to relocate it farther back down the feed line?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-251006ERL
Now, the pressure stays up long enough for me to start it but I still have to be very quick about it when I start it otherwise the pressure drops down to around 20-30 fairly quickly.
Is there a specific way check valves should be mounted when they utilize a flapper? I currently have it mounted vertically close to the fuel rails on a return system as there was a convenient spot for it.
Would it be worth my trouble to relocate it farther back down the feed line?
#6
IIRC the pump you bought has a check valve in it, and I would expect that it works. It's most likely the FPR bleeding off. Some FPR's are pretty bad that way, others are very good. But it's probably not the pump.
#7
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-13129
I'm going to try and move the check valve farther back in the line, in theory the amount of gas leaking through the valve equals L where my current volume with it located nearer to the fuel rails is V.
By moving it farther back I'm increasing the volume, V + A but the amount that leaks past it remains L. If the PSI drop stays the same then I know for sure that the FPR is the issue.
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#9
I could plug the FPR at key on engine off so the return has nowhere to go to see if it's the racetronix pump with the bad checkvalve or the FPR. I think I will try that before relocating the check valve.
#11
Tested in this evening, it's the FPR letting off the pressure too quickly.
I'm using the evap as a return, when running it is fine and fuel pressure stays at a solid 59 psi. This just happens on startup.
when I turn to key on pressure goes to 50 or so then drops very quickly to 30 within about a second. Is this a sign of a bad FPR or am I simply not dumping enough fuel through it? My pump is the racetronix 255
I'm using the evap as a return, when running it is fine and fuel pressure stays at a solid 59 psi. This just happens on startup.
when I turn to key on pressure goes to 50 or so then drops very quickly to 30 within about a second. Is this a sign of a bad FPR or am I simply not dumping enough fuel through it? My pump is the racetronix 255
#12
Tested in this evening, it's the FPR letting off the pressure too quickly.
I'm using the evap as a return, when running it is fine and fuel pressure stays at a solid 59 psi. This just happens on startup.
when I turn to key on pressure goes to 50 or so then drops very quickly to 30 within about a second. Is this a sign of a bad FPR or am I simply not dumping enough fuel through it? My pump is the racetronix 255
I'm using the evap as a return, when running it is fine and fuel pressure stays at a solid 59 psi. This just happens on startup.
when I turn to key on pressure goes to 50 or so then drops very quickly to 30 within about a second. Is this a sign of a bad FPR or am I simply not dumping enough fuel through it? My pump is the racetronix 255
Short answer : get used to it or buy another FPR.
#13
Something else to check out just because I fought with the same thing...
If you used the rubber fuel injection hose in the tank it more then likely has split or come apart. Had this happen to me after a new pump. Ended up buying the nylon hose and haven't had a problem since.
If you used the rubber fuel injection hose in the tank it more then likely has split or come apart. Had this happen to me after a new pump. Ended up buying the nylon hose and haven't had a problem since.
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#15
I installed one of these on a friends car and it did the same thing. Took it back out and replaced the feed tube and found a crack in the venturi tube and that fixed it. Thats where I would look.
#16
Bump. I have the same issue using RFPK-001 kit. Sounds like it’s the racetronix pump internals. It’s not the check valve or fuel press regulator (replaced) or tube leaks because if it was, the pressure would drop and mine stays constant at 30 psi after first prime and 58 psi after 2nd prime with no drop. There’s just not enough time for the pressure to reach 58 psi due to the pump internals. Prime time is set to 2 sec and it’s hardcoded and can’t be changed with HP tuners. Guess I have to do what everyone else has done and try another new pump and should solve the issue.