fuel pumps...big single what you guys running
02-12-2006, 10:58 PM
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fuel pumps...big single what you guys running aeromotive--herd some good alot of bad...herd they burn up if you dont add the volatage regulator which is like an exta 300 bucks???\
weldon??herd alot of good about a600??
wireing up seen full throttle performnace wireing kit would that be what i want to wire up a big single?
gonna sump a 98 tank and go that route..
want a somewhat streetable set up but enough flow
for a forced induction car turbo..
weldon??herd alot of good about a600??
wireing up seen full throttle performnace wireing kit would that be what i want to wire up a big single?
gonna sump a 98 tank and go that route..
want a somewhat streetable set up but enough flow
for a forced induction car turbo..
02-12-2006, 11:10 PM
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The Aeromotive pump doesn't burn up, the fuel gets hot from the high circulation rates. It picks up underhood heat and then vaporizes in the inlet of the pump which is under vacuum. This in turn causes the pump to run dry on vapor and that causes the damage. Any extreme volume pump is susceptible to that.
A speed reducer is a good idea, or twin staged pumps in parallel.
A speed reducer is a good idea, or twin staged pumps in parallel.
02-13-2006, 01:40 AM
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yea i was thinking of puttin a sump on my tank, run a single ext pump good for 900 but i don't know which yet. run a -8 or -10 to a Y thats splits to the rails then for return Y it back to an boost FPR with a -6 or -8 back the tank. hows that 2025?
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i have twin intanks currentlt and im not real impressed with them..i dont like the fitment ofcramming two pumps inside there its work i just feel a lil more confident with a sump and big single..
im running a -8 line up and useing the stock feed line as my return
can i add a fuel cooler to a stock line or would i have toi go with a -6 line as my return?
im running a -8 line up and useing the stock feed line as my return
can i add a fuel cooler to a stock line or would i have toi go with a -6 line as my return?
02-13-2006, 08:29 AM
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I bought a 98 tank originally intending to sump it, but now I think I'm gonna go with 2 in the tank like Mightymouse and RyanK... here's why for me:
To cut and weld on the tank, you need to have it cleaned out by a radiator shop (and many won't do it)... this process removes a coating from the tank inside though, and a guy I was speaking with via PMs recently told me that he did all of this, and that the tank rusted and ruined his stock engine because it needed to be re-coated after all was said and done... How on earth do you this?? The 98 tank was supposed to be a budget piece for me, but after all of the sumping and cleaning, etc, Nasty Nate's tank look like a viable solution price-wise...
Which brings me back to 2 in-tank pumps... this is a proven arrangement too, so...
To cut and weld on the tank, you need to have it cleaned out by a radiator shop (and many won't do it)... this process removes a coating from the tank inside though, and a guy I was speaking with via PMs recently told me that he did all of this, and that the tank rusted and ruined his stock engine because it needed to be re-coated after all was said and done... How on earth do you this?? The 98 tank was supposed to be a budget piece for me, but after all of the sumping and cleaning, etc, Nasty Nate's tank look like a viable solution price-wise...
Which brings me back to 2 in-tank pumps... this is a proven arrangement too, so...
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Originally Posted by Frost
I bought a 98 tank originally intending to sump it, but now I think I'm gonna go with 2 in the tank like Mightymouse and RyanK... here's why for me:
To cut and weld on the tank, you need to have it cleaned out by a radiator shop (and many won't do it)... this process removes a coating from the tank inside though, and a guy I was speaking with via PMs recently told me that he did all of this, and that the tank rusted and ruined his stock engine because it needed to be re-coated after all was said and done... How on earth do you this?? The 98 tank was supposed to be a budget piece for me, but after all of the sumping and cleaning, etc, Nasty Nate's tank look like a viable solution price-wise...
Which brings me back to 2 in-tank pumps... this is a proven arrangement too, so...
To cut and weld on the tank, you need to have it cleaned out by a radiator shop (and many won't do it)... this process removes a coating from the tank inside though, and a guy I was speaking with via PMs recently told me that he did all of this, and that the tank rusted and ruined his stock engine because it needed to be re-coated after all was said and done... How on earth do you this?? The 98 tank was supposed to be a budget piece for me, but after all of the sumping and cleaning, etc, Nasty Nate's tank look like a viable solution price-wise...
Which brings me back to 2 in-tank pumps... this is a proven arrangement too, so...
shop near me will clean it sump it and seal it and call it a day for around 200 bucks
02-13-2006, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Moparnos (The SLP Guy)
yea i was thinking of puttin a sump on my tank, run a single ext pump good for 900 but i don't know which yet. run a -8 or -10 to a Y thats splits to the rails then for return Y it back to an boost FPR with a -6 or -8 back the tank. hows that 2025?
02-13-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Moparnos (The SLP Guy)
yea i was thinking of puttin a sump on my tank, run a single ext pump good for 900 but i don't know which yet. run a -8 or -10 to a Y thats splits to the rails then for return Y it back to an boost FPR with a -6 or -8 back the tank. hows that 2025?
The weldon 2025 and 2035 pumps do pull some power. So you'll want to keep an eye on your charging system when you are street cruise in the early stages of the summer. Things that will play with this are the undrive pulley which might need to be countered with a little higher rpm idle or even heat shielding on over the voltage regulator if the backside of your altnerator is exposed to the hot side pipes of your turbo kit.
Some people choose to run the Weldon or Aeromotive voltage controllers to reduce flow and noise while street cruising. I choose to run the volume up on the CD player.
The little fuel cooler after the fuel regulator also keeps the returned fuel going back to the tank at ambient so you don't have to worry about cavitation in the tank with the warm fuel being circulated at high volume.Rick
02-13-2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LTLHOMER
2025 is nice. I run a -10 all the way to the back of the intake...then split it to dual -8's to the rails, then dual -8's into the regulator, and then -6 return to the cooler and back to the tank.
Ill be shooting you a PM.
Im running a Sumped 98 Tank... my 2nd one.. the 1st one did rust but we saw that before we reinstalled it...
Stenod did the welding on a new tank....
Dual -8an lines into a Y-Block. -10an thru a Aeromotive Filter to a Aeromotive Pro Series Fuel pump, Aeromotive Fuel Pump controller.
-10an to the front.
Split at each rail.
-8an out of each rail into a Aeromotive Pro Series ADJ FP REG.
-8an back to the tank.
Kyle
02-13-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SINISTER
shop near me will clean it sump it and seal it and call it a day for around 200 bucks
I forgot the last issue..... the sump interferes with a cat-back sytle muffler...
But 200 seems like a deal for all of the work... I'm gonna PM you this evening.
Anyone running a sumped 98 tank w/catback? Even with the sump cut down, it still looks like a difficult fit.
02-13-2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Frost
I forgot the last issue..... the sump interferes with a cat-back sytle muffler...
But 200 seems like a deal for all of the work... I'm gonna PM you this evening.
Anyone running a sumped 98 tank w/catback? Even with the sump cut down, it still looks like a difficult fit.
But 200 seems like a deal for all of the work... I'm gonna PM you this evening.
Anyone running a sumped 98 tank w/catback? Even with the sump cut down, it still looks like a difficult fit.
I got picks of mine on there with my Hooker Catback back when i had it.....
Nothing a Lil Massaging with a Rubber Mallet couldnt fix
Kyle