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Not to jump on the bandwagon, but if someone gives a builder their goals and the info on their car and the power they are making and the builder recommends certain components for their build and they fail, then it shouldn't be customer who should have to suffer. The build was spec'd wrong and they should cover it but the customer should pay the difference for upgraded parts if they opt for them. I think that is what he is getting at.
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Not to jump on the bandwagon, but if someone gives a builder their goals and the info on their car and the power they are making and the builder recommends certain components for their build and they fail, then it shouldn't be customer who should have to suffer. The build was spec'd wrong and they should cover it but the customer should pay the difference for upgraded parts if they opt for them. I think that is what he is getting at.
Example:On a engine a few years ago, I had a well know builder put together a short block and he suggested a certain rod to use. He knew the power goals of the car and what I was looking to do with the motor. Well, one rod ended up snapping in half. Everything else looked great and the builder even agreed that it looked like the rod just could not hold up to the power. By your theory, the engine builder should have built me a new short block for free if I provided the cost difference to go with a different rod. Of course that's not how it worked though.
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If parts are used for drag racing, no builder is going to fix your car for free when you break it. It's great that moser is even willing to give you a upgraded axle for free if you break yours.
Example:On a engine a few years ago, I had a well know builder put together a short block and he suggested a certain rod to use. He knew the power goals of the car and what I was looking to do with the motor. Well, one rod ended up snapping in half. Everything else looked great and the builder even agreed that it looked like the rod just could not hold up to the power. By your theory, the engine builder should have built me a new short block for free if I provided the cost difference to go with a different rod. Of course that's not how it worked though.
Example:On a engine a few years ago, I had a well know builder put together a short block and he suggested a certain rod to use. He knew the power goals of the car and what I was looking to do with the motor. Well, one rod ended up snapping in half. Everything else looked great and the builder even agreed that it looked like the rod just could not hold up to the power. By your theory, the engine builder should have built me a new short block for free if I provided the cost difference to go with a different rod. Of course that's not how it worked though.
I would think they would work with the customer if they spec'd out the wrong set up and it did not hold the power. There are shops that do that to retain their customers and to not do that would definitely sending your competitor money and your customer. Especially if they have spend some money with you in the past. I guess there is a lot of factors that would weight that.
Not in the LSx community, but I heard of a Mustang shop that build a new motor, the motor failed within a short time of it being driven, and at no fault of the customer nor the builder. He still built him a new one free of charge.
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I understand your point Dustin.
I would think they would work with the customer if they spec'd out the wrong set up and it did not hold the power. There are shops that do that to retain their customers and to not do that would definitely sending your competitor money and your customer. Especially if they have spend some money with you in the past. I guess there is a lot of factors that would weight that.
Not in the LSx community, but I heard of a Mustang shop that build a new motor, the motor failed within a short time of it being driven, and at no fault of the customer nor the builder. He still built him a new one free of charge.
I would think they would work with the customer if they spec'd out the wrong set up and it did not hold the power. There are shops that do that to retain their customers and to not do that would definitely sending your competitor money and your customer. Especially if they have spend some money with you in the past. I guess there is a lot of factors that would weight that.
Not in the LSx community, but I heard of a Mustang shop that build a new motor, the motor failed within a short time of it being driven, and at no fault of the customer nor the builder. He still built him a new one free of charge.
And FWIW, if you(David) snap the gun drilled 35 then just put a solid 35 in there. They hold up fine in my car so yours should have no problem with them.
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i dont think that is a fair comparison. if my axles were your rods, i would only expect to return the original rods on exchange for appropriate ones i asked for originally, and pay the difference if there is any.
expecting a complete rebuild would be a bit much, for example if the axle breaking jacked the fender of my car up... as hot as i would be about that, i would not ask that be repaired in addition to the axle replacement
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I cant remember if my axles are from strange or moser
expecting a complete rebuild would be a bit much, for example if the axle breaking jacked the fender of my car up... as hot as i would be about that, i would not ask that be repaired in addition to the axle replacement
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I cant remember if my axles are from strange or moser
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i dont think that is a fair comparison. if my axles were your rods, i would only expect to return the original rods on exchange for appropriate ones i asked for originally, and pay the difference if there is any.
expecting a complete rebuild would be a bit much, for example if the axle breaking jacked the fender of my car up... as hot as i would be about that, i would not ask that be repaired in addition to the axle replacement
I cant remember if my axles are from strange or moser
expecting a complete rebuild would be a bit much, for example if the axle breaking jacked the fender of my car up... as hot as i would be about that, i would not ask that be repaired in addition to the axle replacement
I cant remember if my axles are from strange or moser
EDIT: Here is Strange Engineering's axle policy for you:
Axle Replacement Guarantee
S/T Series (induction hardened 35-spline) and S/S (induction hardened 33-
spline) axles are guaranteed against spline breakage to the original owner
for a period of three years. Strange Pro Race Axles (thru-hardened) with
33, 35 (excluding gun-drilled) or 40-splines are guaranteed against spline
breakage to the original owner for a period of five years. This replacement
policy shall not apply to any product which has been repaired or altered in
anyway so as in our judgement affects its performance; nor which has
been subject to misuse, abuse, negligence or any other occurrence beyond
the control of Strange Engineering. The replacement policy is effective
from the invoice shipping date. In no way does Strange Engineering
accept responsibility or liability beyond repair or replacement.
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MM= Moser axles. i do not warranty anything i do not manufacture. i warranty only what i manufacture. this is the same thing for all customers. i did not assemble the rearend you have, never have seen or put my hands on that set of axles. the axles you have is plenty for the power you make as well as the way it is applied to the ground(turbo/auto/1.4-1.5 60'/3500#--- info i have from your build specs). the street driven spool would be the only concern from the manufacturer, i would assume. if my Procharger street car will 60 foot in the 1.3's at 3850 pounds on 31 spline axles, your setup should surely be fine.
as a direct dealer, i do whatever i can within reason to help out and get the customer taken care of, but the manufacturer's warranty is what the deal is. i state this to all customers who inquire about warranty. this is the same for all other components as well.
as a direct dealer, i do whatever i can within reason to help out and get the customer taken care of, but the manufacturer's warranty is what the deal is. i state this to all customers who inquire about warranty. this is the same for all other components as well.
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Well I feel a lot better now than I did when it first came up. So we shouldn't have to beat the horse any more.
All that out of the way, IF there is some problem I will come to you for a resolution. We have actually all ready talked about this concerning the incorrect flanging on Mosers fault. I bought the axles from you, and spec'd by you, not them. We can both plan the best case scenario unfolds that whatever problem would be covered by them.
All that out of the way, IF there is some problem I will come to you for a resolution. We have actually all ready talked about this concerning the incorrect flanging on Mosers fault. I bought the axles from you, and spec'd by you, not them. We can both plan the best case scenario unfolds that whatever problem would be covered by them.
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If anyone cares, if you do the math from moser. there 35 spline axle should be good for 1638 ft lbs of torque to each wheel. they say each axle should be able to take the full amount of torque the motor could possible produce.
That would also mean IF MM is making near 2,000 hp he should of gotten the 40 spline axles.
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That would also mean IF MM is making near 2,000 hp he should of gotten the 40 spline axles.
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If anyone cares, if you do the math from moser. there 35 spline axle should be good for 1638 ft lbs of torque to each wheel. they say each axle should be able to take the full amount of torque the motor could possible produce.
That would also mean IF MM is making near 2,000 hp he should of gotten the 40 spline axles.
Chris
That would also mean IF MM is making near 2,000 hp he should of gotten the 40 spline axles.
Chris
1638 was in a glide with a 3.5 gear.
1088 in a t56 with a 3.5 gear
Chris
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If anyone cares, if you do the math from moser. there 35 spline axle should be good for 1638 ft lbs of torque to each wheel. they say each axle should be able to take the full amount of torque the motor could possible produce.
That would also mean IF MM is making near 2,000 hp he should of gotten the 40 spline axles.
Chris
1638 was in a glide with a 3.5 gear.
1088 in a t56 with a 3.5 gear
Chris
Originally Posted by Sideways240sx View Post
If anyone cares, if you do the math from moser. there 35 spline axle should be good for 1638 ft lbs of torque to each wheel. they say each axle should be able to take the full amount of torque the motor could possible produce.
That would also mean IF MM is making near 2,000 hp he should of gotten the 40 spline axles.
Chris
1638 was in a glide with a 3.5 gear.
1088 in a t56 with a 3.5 gear
Chris
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Hey guys, just wondering how much power and abuse you think a 31 spline limited slip with a 4.10 can handle? Thats what I have on order and I know its fine for the power I have now just wondering. Thanks in advance!
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Sure did. It took the abuse, drove home no issue. Car dead hooks from 4,000 rpm clutch dumps on a 275 40 17 et street radial. The rear is amazing. The turbo was bogging out of the whole, and da was 2800+ but we did ok.
Vid.
http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=6756
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Vid.
http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=6756
Chris