2009 bmw m3 vs 2010 ss camaro?
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No contest, SS all the way. The V8 in the BMW has low torque compared to the LS3. Both cars weight about the same, and come equiped with nearly the same size wheel and tires package. The only difference is the BMW will have launch mode. I have always liked the sound of my inline 6 but the new V8 sounds awesome, it just lacks the torque, but it spins up nicely.
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Kinda a weird comparison. The M3 is tuned for handling and balance overall, not straight line dragging and has less tq than the SS will have. SS will take it with equal drivers I think.
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I think that the M3 may come out on top in that race, 1/4 times on the M3 vary from 12.5 up to 12.9, from what i can find about the SS is that it runs 13.3 with automatic and 13.4 with 6 speed.
M3. http://www.oncars.com/news-blogs/sto...-3-Performance
Camaro. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=129496
M3. http://www.oncars.com/news-blogs/sto...-3-Performance
Camaro. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=129496
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think of it this way... the m3 is a smaller and lighter car compared to the camaro... so it may be a bit quicker but i think after the camaro gets out into the customers hands they will end up being about even. I also think the camaro will hold its own in the handling dept with some suspension mods.
but with the low torque the m3 wont be as fun, will probably be a more peaky powerband and it wont be able to put down an easy 450+horsepower to the rear wheels with a mild heads cam setup . m3's tiny v8 is all but maxed from the factory.
All that matters is the cts-v kicks the snot out of both m3 and m5, and that their real competitor.
but with the low torque the m3 wont be as fun, will probably be a more peaky powerband and it wont be able to put down an easy 450+horsepower to the rear wheels with a mild heads cam setup . m3's tiny v8 is all but maxed from the factory.
All that matters is the cts-v kicks the snot out of both m3 and m5, and that their real competitor.
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think of it this way... the m3 is a smaller and lighter car compared to the camaro... so it may be a bit quicker but i think after the camaro gets out into the customers hands they will end up being about even. I also think the camaro will hold its own in the handling dept with some suspension mods.
but with the low torque the m3 wont be as fun, will probably be a more peaky powerband and it wont be able to put down an easy 450+horsepower to the rear wheels with a mild heads cam setup . m3's tiny v8 is all but maxed from the factory.
All that matters is the cts-v kicks the snot out of both m3 and m5, and that their real competitor.
but with the low torque the m3 wont be as fun, will probably be a more peaky powerband and it wont be able to put down an easy 450+horsepower to the rear wheels with a mild heads cam setup . m3's tiny v8 is all but maxed from the factory.
All that matters is the cts-v kicks the snot out of both m3 and m5, and that their real competitor.
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There was a post a while back, I forget who did the review, i think it was edmunds. But they reported it did the 1/4 mile in around 13, 13.1 and that was out on a normal road not a prepped track. That's where most people are stating the time from.
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What M3 are you buying for $53-57K? Not a new one, try in the mid $60K region.
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You can actually regear the E92 M3's... but they have a dismal amount of torque (under 300rwtq).
Hell an LS3 at idle probably puts down more torque...
I'll say they are a wash on times, give or take a 1/4 second.
Hell an LS3 at idle probably puts down more torque...
I'll say they are a wash on times, give or take a 1/4 second.
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Nobody buys M3s for drag racing and that is not their appeal.
They are really nice cars and I would take a m3 over a 2010 camaro anyday. Already have my drag car.
They are really nice cars and I would take a m3 over a 2010 camaro anyday. Already have my drag car.
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i just couldnt stand the idea of owning a bmw... too many snobs who own them for the image.