New 2011 Z28 is Back
#161
I always thought of it as the original Z28 was for Trans Am racing and being a good "handling" car with a 302 since Trans Am limited engine sizes to 305 cubic inches. Where as the SS was the real "muscle machine". In my opinion its hard to compare the two because of that. Since they quit doing SS's during the smog years but then revived Z28 to be the highest output Camaro, it makes it even tougher to argue which is more of the top dog when the SS was brought back in '96.
#162
Well all I can say is they better bring the heat because the 2011 Mustang with the 412hp 5.0 and 2-300 less pounds is going to be faster than the SS.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/2...wrapped-early/
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/2...wrapped-early/
#163
Are your weight Specs AFTER the increases that are made this coming year for all the safety specs that the mustang WASN'T compliant with yet? Cause i know the 2010 Mustang wasn't up to spec for the new safetys regs but the Camaro was. Something like standard side curtain airbags and reinforced roof to take rollovers better
#164
#165
No offense to you but he's right. The 4th gen ZL1s were built by GMMG, not GM it self, nor could it be ordered through GM as a regular production option or package, like your SS could have. As stated above it was an after market conversion done to cars after they were built by a third party company, GM had nothing to do with them. Any alternations made were done after the fact of the cars production, you couldn't walk in to your dealer and build a 4th gen Camaro with a "ZL1" option and then GM would have the car was sent to GMMG after it rolled off the line. The only 4th gen ZL1 GM built was the 94 Camaro Jon Moss built during his tenure at GM which was a one off show car for GM.
#168
#169
Maybe for the catfish Camaro and the IROC that was the situation, but the original Z28 for first and second generation Camaro's was a completely separate option from the SS. I will just use Wiki for reference..
The debut Camaro shared some mechanicals with the 1968 Chevy II Nova. Almost 80 factory and 40 dealer options, including three main packages, were available.
The SS included a 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8 engine and the L35 and L78 396 cu in (6.5 L) big-block V8's were also available. The SS featured non-functional air inlets on the hood, special striping and SS badging on the grille, front fenders, gas cap, and horn button. It was possible to order both the SS and RS to receive a Camaro RS/SS. In 1967, a Camaro RS/SS convertible with a 396 engine paced the Indianapolis 500 race
The Z/28 option code was introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year. This option package was not mentioned in any sales literature, so it was unknown to most buyers.[1] The Z/28 option required power front disc brakes and a Muncie 4-speed manual transmission. The Z/28 featured a 302 cu in (4.9 L) small-block V-8 engine, 3" crankshaft with 4" bore, an aluminum intake manifold, and a 4-barrel vacuum secondary Holley carburetor of 780CFM. The engine was designed specifically to race in the Trans Am series (which required engines smaller than 305 cu in (5 L) and public availability of the car. Advertised power of this engine was listed at 290 hp (216 kW). This is an under-rated figure.[1]
Wheres this Z28/SS you speak of?
Second Generation..
Besides the base model, buyers could select the "Rally Sport" option with a distinctive front nose and bumper, a "Super Sport" package, and the "Z-28 Special Performance Package" featuring a new high-performance LT-1 360 hp (268 kW) 380 lb·ft (520 N·m) of torque 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8.
Still not seeing it yet.
#171
Well all I can say is they better bring the heat because the 2011 Mustang with the 412hp 5.0 and 2-300 less pounds is going to be faster than the SS.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/2...wrapped-early/
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/2...wrapped-early/
#174
If they ever build a supercharged Z28 camaro like the one in that article it will cost you $70K..
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
Look at the new cadillacs with that motor..
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
Look at the new cadillacs with that motor..
#176
They should have named it ZL1 and kept the Z28 moniker for a lightweight Camaro with a D.I. small stroke 302. I bet they could still get 400+hp and 7k rpm out of that motor with ls3/l92 heads. Especially with the D.I. Price it like the SS and make it an alternative for guys who want a Camaro that can out handle a Mustang GT without question.
#177
If they ever build a supercharged Z28 camaro like the one in that article it will cost you $70K..
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
Look at the new cadillacs with that motor..
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
Look at the new cadillacs with that motor..
#179
If they ever build a supercharged Z28 camaro like the one in that article it will cost you $70K..
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
Look at the new cadillacs with that motor..
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
Look at the new cadillacs with that motor..