JDEP162

i remember the first time i saw a 5th gen in person, black one flying through town at night, looked fuqing awesome. but now theres so many and many that are plain looking, its rare around here to see a badass one. same for 4ths tho i guess. yet when i walk out of a store and mines sitting just right it does look classy, and remind me why i love em so much. then i see a c6 or c7, FML.

alex722607

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I just saw this thread, and no I did not read through all 52 pages, just the first three. I have to say that all in all, every year the f-body camaro and firebird was produced as well as the new camaro and/or z/ta they were all equally popular and all the car to have.

The 5th gens are common and popular now just like the 2nd gens were and the third gens were and the 4th gens when they first came out. Eventually a similar fate awaits the zeta bodied camaros. However being that the name was slapped on a car that was not an f-body, I don't think they will garner the same attention that 3rd gen enthusiasts and 4th gen enthusiasts have towards their cars way after they rolled off of the factory floor. (I maybe wrong though)

Of course everyone wants a new car and so if the camaro is discontinued (or when a newer version of it comes out again), people will jump on the next "best thing"

ATM though, I think 3rd and 4th gens are coming back in popularity, as long as they look presentable, they will be looked at favorably.

This is of cousre just my 2 cents and everyone has their own opinion.

Robert Cantu

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Love for a 4th gen here.

"MAC"

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They are cheap, light and fast so why not?

Dark SS

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2 out of 3 ain't bad.

"MAC"

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Yea i guess they could be lighter.

Dark SS

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No, they're plenty light and plenty cheap.

"MAC"

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They are plenty fast to, considering simple bolt ons and weight reduction your in the 11s, hell a bolt on, heads, and weight reduction C5 vette is doing 9s hasn't even put a cam in it yet.

Edit his C5 is indeed an Z06 not the ls1. How ever point still stands

Dark SS

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Mod for mod the 5th gen is faster. I have not been impressed with my first LS1. I had a lot more luck with my LS2 that went 12.4 tune only and LS3 that went 12.4 with bolt-ons on a street tire. I can't get my shitbox out of the 13's with almost every bolt-on.

"MAC"

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Id say something is wrong with your set up then bc bolt on ls1s have been high 11s and bottom 12s. 12s in general being the normal.

Dark SS

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Kinda hard to have a headers/lid car set up wrong, lol. 4th gens are just old and beat now. The 2.73 gear is killing me, it has 138,000 miles and is little tired. It will take me a gear and stall to get close to what my 5th gen did with a banger on a street tire. Don't get me wrong, I love my car but the LS1 needs to go. There's much better LS engines out there for the same cost of building the LS1.

kinglt-1

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I don't know Dark, my bolt on LS1 is running quite a bit stronger then your 5th gen did(going by the times in your sig). I have it covered on mph and et by quite a bit. That being said mine is still fresh @ 17k miles. I am pulling 12.0 @ 122(116-117mph corrected) on the street going by my g-tech. I also beat a SBC 383 3rd gen that runs 12.1 116 at our local track on the street from a dig to 130mph recently(should of seen the look on his face). I do not track this car because it is too clean, but anything that traps 112 is not even close on the street. Is this the norm, probably not because, like you said, most LS1 cars are aged and tired. However there are still some lower mileage ones out roaming the streets that run.

I agree that there are better LS engines to go with if you are rebuilding. LS3 block stroker is where its at.

BTW the stock stall and 2.73 gears is probably costing you 6-8 tenths on your et and 2-3mph on your trap...

"MAC"

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Idk he was auto, i can't see sigs on my phone. I definitely agree about his stock stall and gears hurting him. Dark get a 3600 stall, bigger trans cooler, stg 3 shift kit, and maybe some 373 gears. It'll help you out a lot like king said.

chaman

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Same **** as always.... Someone makes facts out of their own experiences. The reason of why this site exists is due to the capacity and potential the little LS1 cars have. Saying they are slow and difficult to make fast is a major stupidity.

Dark SS

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116 with out a cam? That sounds pretty high for just a bolt on LS1. I used to pull cammed 4th gens with my LS3.

Stall and 3.42 gears are in the works. I was really hoping to hit 12's before the season ended but was disappointed. My car is definitely a dog. Instead of playing around with heads/cam combos I'm planning on swapping in a cammed LS3 in the next couple years.

I'm just spoiled by how easy it was to run 3/1000ths of a second away from a 10 second pass with my C6.

Already in the works. I plan on an SS4000 and already have 3.42's going in. I just expected more out of my car.



Who said they are difficult to make fast?? All I stated was that the newer cars are easier to run the number with. They should be, you start out with 50-75 more HP. This site was started when 11's with just a cam and bolt-ons was unheard of. The LS engine was revolutionary in the early 2000's. Now the LS1 is dated and there are better LS options available for a reasonable price.

kinglt-1

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Yup..setup is:

Factory LS6 intake with ported TB
SLP Lid
SLP 1.85 rockers with Comp 918 springs & TI retainers
Kooks 1 7/8 LT's with Kooks True Duals
FTI 3800 stall with cooler
Shift kit and vette servo
Eaton T2R torsion diff with 3.73 gears and TA cover
Pretty much all of the suspension has been replaced with UMI or BMR components
KYB AGX shocks

Weight is right around 3300lbs with the spare tire and jack still in the car.

To my knowledge the cam and heads are untouched per the original owner. I will find out soon enough when it gets torn down for a H/C/I setup this winter. It sounds stock as stock can be.

The 3rd gen I raced was on a big/littles convo pro setup with ET streets and I still yanked him out of the hole on the street. He showed me a vid of his track pass on his phone too. He was in shock...my buddy set me up to race him, I thought I was going to get destroyed. I also slightly pulled my brothers srt-4 neon up top and it was trapping around 115 at the time.

The car runs for what it is, not sure what else to say. Do I think it's normal for these cars no...but my car is a couple hundred pounds lighter then most 4th gens being a stripper so that helps. Also the Rockers are worth 10whp and 17wtq, so that helps too(especially on the 01-02 cars with lower lift & duration cam)because most never run these.