Official GM Pricing - Options pricing included!!
10-13-2008, 05:55 PM
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10-13-2008, 06:04 PM
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My Z/28 cost me 22k...brand new.
I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
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I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
W
your Z was 22k what, 6 years ago? and rated at 28 mpg by old standards. ever hear of inflation?
one of the best posts I've made, back in July... I have to pat myself on the back a little for this one...
after a few google searches I've come up with some interesting numbers
base LS1 camaro in 02 was 22,700
putting that into an inflation calculator we get
reference http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/I...Calculator.asp
What cost $22700 in 2002 would cost $26658.63 in 2007.
I know that is 5 years instead of the actual 7 but 08 data obviously isn't available yet. thats 791$/yr, so we'll add 1583 to get an 09 estimate of 28241.
so a BASE 02' LS1 would cost 28,241 in 2009. wow.
lets add some of the things we know will be on the 09 that were not on the 02 that would add cost and a rough cost estimate
IRS instead of 10 bolt - 1000
stability control - 500
on-star - 250
20's - 500
6 airbags - 500
gauge cluster - 250
thats $3000 and who knows how well ?I estimated. I'm guessing full power and leather may also be standard...
that puts us at ~31,250 base price before a ~600 destination charge...
seems like that may be fairly accurate depending on what all comes standard... if so, i can swing it.
base LS1 camaro in 02 was 22,700
putting that into an inflation calculator we get
reference http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/I...Calculator.asp
What cost $22700 in 2002 would cost $26658.63 in 2007.
I know that is 5 years instead of the actual 7 but 08 data obviously isn't available yet. thats 791$/yr, so we'll add 1583 to get an 09 estimate of 28241.
so a BASE 02' LS1 would cost 28,241 in 2009. wow.
lets add some of the things we know will be on the 09 that were not on the 02 that would add cost and a rough cost estimate
IRS instead of 10 bolt - 1000
stability control - 500
on-star - 250
20's - 500
6 airbags - 500
gauge cluster - 250
thats $3000 and who knows how well ?I estimated. I'm guessing full power and leather may also be standard...
that puts us at ~31,250 base price before a ~600 destination charge...
seems like that may be fairly accurate depending on what all comes standard... if so, i can swing it.
thats 18420 difference from a base camaro to base vette. To say thats a few thousand is rediculous.
sure, I wish they were a little cheaper, but its really not realistic.
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10-13-2008, 06:06 PM
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And that was 8 years ago with a car using a 1993 chassis(and overall quality), subpar brakes, and crappy suspension.
This is a brand new chassis, using high quality materials in and out, awesome brakes(see fade resistance), and class leading race track tuned suspension. Everything about the car, save for weight, is far superior to the 4th gen.
Comparing used prices to new prices does not apply.
This car is cheaper than a Challenger R/T, and only about $4,000 more than the current base Mustang GT, which will break a sweat going against the base V6 Camaro, and stands absolutely no chance against an SS when it comes to performance (and not just in a strait line most importantly).
The new Camaro is rated with EPA's new standard, bringing the gas mileage down. Regardless the 4th gen should be cheaper for the same reason a 3rd gen is cheaper than a 4th gen (im talking about quality if you didn't pick up on it)...
This is a brand new chassis, using high quality materials in and out, awesome brakes(see fade resistance), and class leading race track tuned suspension. Everything about the car, save for weight, is far superior to the 4th gen.
I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
10-13-2008, 06:22 PM
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im sycked about those prices, i thought the SS was going to be based at atleast 35k. Looks like i may be back in an fbody after all, a white 1SS will be my next car!
10-13-2008, 06:41 PM
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I think this was a huge deal for GM and will pay off after a couple years, for the guy that thinks this car is too expensive...to engineer a new vehicle from scratch to outperform what wasnt known yet (challenger), be up to Camaro and GM enthusiasts expectations and have the quality we expect for a completely new 400hp vehicle with warranty fully loaded for under 35k...
wheres the huge mark up your expecting, to me it looks like they priced this perfectly and they are in for the long run, but maybe Im just totally retarded
wheres the huge mark up your expecting, to me it looks like they priced this perfectly and they are in for the long run, but maybe Im just totally retarded
10-13-2008, 07:07 PM
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My Z/28 cost me 22k...brand new.
I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
W
I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
W
Also, comparing a new Camaro price to a used Corvette price doesn't apply. New to new, or used to used.
And it is CAMARO, not camaro
You still get an "F" on your report card.
10-13-2008, 07:40 PM
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And...my '02 can run with the new camaro, stock for stock.
I do not care if you are giving me a report card or not, Sparky JJO. Your can paper cut your *** with my report card.
I am not paying 30 some-odd thousand dollars for a pony-car.
Hopefully everyone is correct and after a few months and plenty of rebates it will come back to a pony-car price.
However, go ahead and flame me...this is over-priced for a Mustang competitor...even the Challenger costs less.
This is the best of the Stang, Challenger, camaro lineup...but it costs the most...thus, it should be the best.
W
I do not care if you are giving me a report card or not, Sparky JJO. Your can paper cut your *** with my report card.
I am not paying 30 some-odd thousand dollars for a pony-car.
Hopefully everyone is correct and after a few months and plenty of rebates it will come back to a pony-car price.
However, go ahead and flame me...this is over-priced for a Mustang competitor...even the Challenger costs less.
This is the best of the Stang, Challenger, camaro lineup...but it costs the most...thus, it should be the best.
W
10-13-2008, 07:43 PM
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Wait a minute, you always said you would buy one if it were under 30k. Now, its $996 more and you want ot freak out? Kepp in mind you are looking at MSRP, and the Vet has a considerably higher MSRP.
10-13-2008, 07:47 PM
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A 370hp RT starts at 30k. Considerable difference in every performance category when compared to the camaro.
The camaro also costs considerably less than an srt8 model and will match or outperform this car in every category.
What price do you expect?
did someone hit you in the head with a large object this afternoon?
and about your 02 running with it...pure speculation. but again..what do you expect? it should dip into the 12's stock. and for what is offered today in the price range it is kicking some serious ***
but one thing that isnt speculation is that this motor has made 500 horsepower to the wheels cam only.
I am now convinced in life that some people can never be satisfied NO MATTER WHAT
The camaro also costs considerably less than an srt8 model and will match or outperform this car in every category.
What price do you expect?
did someone hit you in the head with a large object this afternoon?
and about your 02 running with it...pure speculation. but again..what do you expect? it should dip into the 12's stock. and for what is offered today in the price range it is kicking some serious ***
but one thing that isnt speculation is that this motor has made 500 horsepower to the wheels cam only.
I am now convinced in life that some people can never be satisfied NO MATTER WHAT
10-13-2008, 08:07 PM
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My Z/28 cost me 22k...brand new.
I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
W
I have seen C6's under 40k. 35k plus a few thousand equals around 40ish, there are some good deals on C6's going on.
I want a cheap camaro with a V8 that is what this car means to the vast majority of us.
Oil prices are falling because the economy is falling. We are running out of easy to access oil...so I am not really wishing to spend top dollar on a gas-hog.
My 2002 Z/28 gets 30 mpg and cost me considerably less.
W
You do know that you bought the last model year right? Not a brand new, just released car. I am sure you paid less than MSRP.
If C6s are going for $35k for base models that is 20% off MSRP.
By the time the car has been out a while I would not doubt they will come off the MSRP of the Camaro
If you were to take 20% off the MSRP of the Camaro you would be able to get a base SS for $23k
10-13-2008, 08:09 PM
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perhaps GM will offer 4th gen type options to keep costs down. for instance. warping rotors after 10k of normal driving. slow window motors that go after regular usage. crap leather that wears out if you clean it. 10 bolts that break under stock power. cheap plastic that cracks and looks shitty. i miss anything? 
10-13-2008, 08:41 PM
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383ss, I dub you a ******* genius.
No whining. This car will outperform atleast 70% of the cars on the road right now (daily drivers) and only be like 5k more than the average car price?
$31000 for a 422HP Camaro SS or $23,000 for a 260 HP Cobalt SS (THE v6 IS 300 HP for 22k!!!)
No whining. This car will outperform atleast 70% of the cars on the road right now (daily drivers) and only be like 5k more than the average car price?
$31000 for a 422HP Camaro SS or $23,000 for a 260 HP Cobalt SS (THE v6 IS 300 HP for 22k!!!)
10-13-2008, 08:53 PM
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I think the price is too high IMO. I think the V6 price is right, but the SS prices should have been a little lower. I was hoping to get a fully loaded 2SS with all the options for $34k out the door. After adding in all the options I wanted and including dealer prep, doc fee's, and TTT the price comes out to a little over $40k. That's just too much IMO.
Considering the state of the economy, the prices should be lower. We are actually experiencing DEFLATION (yes, I am an Economist by trade). Tighter credit market+lower stock prices+rising dollar+higher unemployment=DEFLATION. Most car prices are falling like a rock.
I'm glad that some of you are rejoicing about the price, but I won't be purchasing one at that price.
Considering the state of the economy, the prices should be lower. We are actually experiencing DEFLATION (yes, I am an Economist by trade). Tighter credit market+lower stock prices+rising dollar+higher unemployment=DEFLATION. Most car prices are falling like a rock.
I'm glad that some of you are rejoicing about the price, but I won't be purchasing one at that price.