View Poll Results: What type of rear shall we have?
IRS...good for road racing and fine for dragging
172
51.04%
Make mine a solid rear...I like to run around with my shoe laces tied together!!!
165
48.96%
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Maro...IRS or Solid Rear?
#183
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I voted solid axle eventhough I know they are going IRS. I will just replace it with a Strange 12 bolt. Hopefully they don't make them only available in glass top and convertible. I want a hardtop, no A/C, no power options, and with cloth interior. Hopefully they will cater to some of us drag racers!
#185
Originally Posted by Matt D
I voted solid axle eventhough I know they are going IRS. I will just replace it with a Strange 12 bolt. Hopefully they don't make them only available in glass top and convertible. I want a hardtop, no A/C, no power options, and with cloth interior. Hopefully they will cater to some of us drag racers!
#187
Originally Posted by NHRAMAN
Actually, it says we have a few more sophisticated drivers here who want a better ride for the street, where 99.9% of us drive.
#188
I don't think we should worry too much about IRS, BMR does offer stuff for the gto to eliminate wheel hop, not to mention i'm sure there will be some solid rear axle swap in the aftermarket. besides most who go all out drag racing usually upgrade the rear at some point.
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IRS is a go for the Camaro, if it's good enough for the Z06 it's good enough for Me... IRS should be sufficent for those of us performance enthusiasts who haven't transformed our cars into a track only drag car, IRS makes much more sense because it appeals to a wider range of buyers, although WE current F-Body owners deal with the harsh ride, road noise, creaking, squeaking, rattling etc. The Wide Range of Buyers would rather have something more refined, thus the problem with the 4th Gens. Sure it was the fastest car in it's price range... but it was ruff riding, noisy, and had subjective styling, you loved it or hated it. My Camaro is a ruff car, it's no BMW... but I love the performance, price and look, if I wanted something that rode like a Luxury Car I would buy a Luxury car, and if I wanted something that wasn't loud and sometimes annoy Me with rattles I would buy a Cavalier. And the 4th Gen appealed to Me and most of us who own one.
The 5th GEN must appeal to a broader spectrum of buyers, as well as please the performance enthusiast and IRS makes that much easier. Most V6 and some V8 Buyers buy the car for the look and feel, not for the performance. So they would be perfectly happy with a V6 that wasn't the fastest thing around, as long as it looked cool and performed nicely which includes ride quality. The 5th Gen will be many peoples daily drivers, so it has to be more practical. If the Mustang can sell 20,000 dollar + peices of crap that are slow and over populated, but "look cool" and "ride nice" I'm sure the Camaro can sell with IRS.
The challenge is not pissing off those of us who want performance both straight-line and cornering, and appealing to the Soccer Mom who wants to look good and have something practical. Those of us who are going to turn the car into an allout street machine will just have to swap if IRS isn't working out, but who's really gonna turn a 5th Gen into a drag car when you can do it to a third or 4th (instert random body)... and not have to buy a new car?
Personally I plan on doing exhaust, intake, and other bolt-ons, and I'm leaving it to GM to make sure it's fast enough from the factory not to need major modification to perform well against competitors. My 5th Gen will be practical, my 4th Gen will have a 383 LS1 and a twin turbo.
The 5th GEN must appeal to a broader spectrum of buyers, as well as please the performance enthusiast and IRS makes that much easier. Most V6 and some V8 Buyers buy the car for the look and feel, not for the performance. So they would be perfectly happy with a V6 that wasn't the fastest thing around, as long as it looked cool and performed nicely which includes ride quality. The 5th Gen will be many peoples daily drivers, so it has to be more practical. If the Mustang can sell 20,000 dollar + peices of crap that are slow and over populated, but "look cool" and "ride nice" I'm sure the Camaro can sell with IRS.
The challenge is not pissing off those of us who want performance both straight-line and cornering, and appealing to the Soccer Mom who wants to look good and have something practical. Those of us who are going to turn the car into an allout street machine will just have to swap if IRS isn't working out, but who's really gonna turn a 5th Gen into a drag car when you can do it to a third or 4th (instert random body)... and not have to buy a new car?
Personally I plan on doing exhaust, intake, and other bolt-ons, and I'm leaving it to GM to make sure it's fast enough from the factory not to need major modification to perform well against competitors. My 5th Gen will be practical, my 4th Gen will have a 383 LS1 and a twin turbo.
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Originally Posted by Renegade
The 5th GEN must appeal to a broader spectrum of buyers, as well as please the performance enthusiast and IRS makes that much easier. Most V6 and some V8 Buyers buy the car for the look and feel, not for the performance. So they would be perfectly happy with a V6 that wasn't the fastest thing around, as long as it looked cool and performed nicely which includes ride quality. The 5th Gen will be many peoples daily drivers, so it has to be more practical. If the Mustang can sell 20,000 dollar + peices of crap that are slow and over populated, but "look cool" and "ride nice" I'm sure the Camaro can sell with IRS.
The challenge is not pissing off those of us who want performance both straight-line and cornering, and appealing to the Soccer Mom who wants to look good and have something practical. Those of us who are going to turn the car into an allout street machine will just have to swap if IRS isn't working out, but who's really gonna turn a 5th Gen into a drag car when you can do it to a third or 4th (instert random body)... and not have to buy a new car?
This needs to go into every insane "z0mg camaro needs a 4 turbo ls7 or it should have 23 rims" etc thread.
Pony cars worked so well because they are sporty cool and you can live with them. The camaro started cutting out liveble for fast. That's good to us, but most ppl dont care.
#192
Originally Posted by DrEvyl
I'd rather have IRS just for the ride and handling... I would like something more than a drag car.
#196
Originally Posted by DrEvyl
Yeah, I already knew. If it's anything like the GTO it should be amazing.
Here's hoping they make it stronger, LOL.