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2009 Camaro VS 2009 GTO
09-19-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Silas2k
pfft what concepts? they took the camaro drawing and added a scoop and a bird on the hood in photoshop lol
09-19-2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Last69
We Pontiac guys hate to hear that, but I guess if your comparing them all, your right, but I wouldnt necessarily call 480 ftlb @3600rpm a turd, now would we. And I do have to mention, in a good rebuilt with minor upgrades, its hard not to get 500hp and 600 ftlbs out of my little indian. The Buick V8 is a badass, and it wieghed 150lbs less that the Chevy, and Ive NEVER heard a motor take a cam like a Buick can. I found a great site that compares alot of engines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V8_engine scroll down to the bottom of the page and youll find other big motors.
I will always be a fan of the big bore camp, and always will. I think power starts with having a huge bore, Buicks had a 4.3xx" bore vs the Chevy 4.25" and the Poncho's 4.1xx". 440ci Mopars made the big power they did because they also had a 4.3xx" bore. big inches and lots of RPM 
09-30-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 1fastTransAm
What new GTO? I really dont think there will be one. Signs are pointing to no. There is no work floating around that is close to legit, nothing in any car mag. I remember months before GM revieled the Camaro there were pix out of it floating on the net the GM had a fit over. GM registered the Firebired name (supposley did that)( not saying there is going to be a Firebired either). IF there was going to be a 09/10 GTO I really think we would have seen/ heard a lot more information that is Firm. IF they are coming out with it they are keeping a tighter lid on it than the Camaro and there was much Hype about wanting the Camaro back and now it is.
I think some of those who like the new GTO's have a fantasy about them coming back. I own one as well but there has been no announcement the GTO is coming back. Plus with the lack luster sales of the GTO the last 3 years, I don't see GM even attempting to sell the car since it would compete with the Camaro. The GTO just will not be able to generate enough sales while the Camaro will have no problems. Lets not forget the new Challenger and I don't see the GTO competing with that either.
10-03-2006, 03:13 AM
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all ive heard is that GM is planning to build a rear drive grand pix with a 6.0 V8 same as the GTO. So basically the car would be a smaller GTO but will not be called such (Sorry die-hard GTO fans)
all in all Camaro all the way.
GTO
camaro
all in all Camaro all the way.
GTO
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10-11-2006, 02:06 PM
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Well in my opinion, back in the day the GTO was a higher echelon vehicle, and thusly had higher performance levels.
So if the past is any indication of the future I think the GTO will have maybe like 30 to 50 more ponies.
But what will probably happen is the GTO is basically going to be the Firebird to the Camaro and will have the exact same performance offerings
So if the past is any indication of the future I think the GTO will have maybe like 30 to 50 more ponies.
But what will probably happen is the GTO is basically going to be the Firebird to the Camaro and will have the exact same performance offerings
10-24-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash99
What the hell is a Camero? Tell me your not that dumb. I expect it on a Honda board, but not here.
Flash99,
You're complaining about a typo with a typo?
your should be you're
:j est:
10-26-2006, 11:26 AM
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I would like to see the GTO as a more upscale model to compete with the BMW 3 series sport coupes, while the Carmaro stays the more affordable to compete with the Mustangs. Also a more powerful version would grow the name but I think it would compete too much with the CTS-V and Vette to be made
10-29-2006, 02:27 AM
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the GTO is a higher end car than the camaro. they market kinda to the same people but not really. just think about how many GTOs u see around and how many Maros. With the GTO u BUY ur power/performance and with the camaro, u make it.
10-31-2006, 08:01 AM
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Yeah, I was holding out hope until I read some stuff from fbodfather on another site. Because GM doesn't have the market share it used to have, they can't have two models that will overlap. There will be no firebird. The GTO will probably be built on the same platform but it will be larger than the camaro and seat 4 adults, so it will target different buyers.
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10-31-2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
Yeah, I was holding out hope until I read some stuff from fbodfather on another site. Because GM doesn't have the market share it used to have, they can't have two models that will overlap. There will be no firebird. The GTO will probably be built on the same platform but it will be larger than the camaro and seat 4 adults, so it will target different buyers.
11-02-2006, 11:00 AM
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i cant wait for thw camaro ill be there to buy it the day it hits the streets i love the look of the car hopefully they will come out with some nice engine combos and packages
11-02-2006, 05:05 PM
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Well I was down at the local Pontiac buick gmc dealership today (brother was buying a new truck) and I was talking to the 12th year sales manager, 07 is the last model year for the gto this was stated in hotrod an issue or so ago also in a sidebar, and the (coming from the sales manager) firebird/trans am is supposed to be introduced the model year after the camaro comes back in 08/09 if everything goes accordingly
11-02-2006, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 98TA_vert
Well I was down at the local Pontiac buick gmc dealership today (brother was buying a new truck) and I was talking to the 12th year sales manager, 07 is the last model year for the gto this was stated in hotrod an issue or so ago also in a sidebar, and the (coming from the sales manager) firebird/trans am is supposed to be introduced the model year after the camaro comes back in 08/09 if everything goes accordingly
06 is the last year for the current GTO, there is no 07. It has been known for a long time that the current GTO would only be a 3 year model run. There are currently no plans to bring the firebird/trans am back, regardless of what some sales manager says. All signs point to a new GTO being made on the same platform as the Camaro, but it will be aimed at a different group of buyers. 