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View Poll Results: Which options would you like to see in the new Camaro?
z28-300hp, SS 6.0 400 hp, ZL1 7.0 500 hp
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z28 6.0 400hp, SS 7.0 500 hp
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Any of above but z28 being top runer
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Don't offer a 7.0 500 hp Camaro let the GT 500 stay up front.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by venomhp
I knew about the ls2 going down but why is gm still putting it on their site? to try to throw the average consumer off that wouldnt know any better? or to just give a general hp rating?
Honestly, they probqbly haven't updated the site in a while. The concept had a ls2, so they are just going to leave it that way until introduction..
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
Honestly, they probqbly haven't updated the site in a while. The concept had a ls2, so they are just going to leave it that way until introduction..

Yeah it is about friking time they update the public with the real stuff coming in the camaro. Is almost 2009!!!!
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...it just turned 08 lol
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Originally Posted by WS.6#384
Are you guys really liking the looks of the new Camaro? I think most have convinced themselves because of hp or other reasons. It is just my personal opinion that the new Camaro looks like ..........ok. With aftermarket rims, spoiler, dropped, hood, maybe someone can make it look cool.

The new Camaro just doesnt do it for me. May be different when I actually see it????
As another Pontiac enthusiast, I know what you mean. When I first saw shots of the new Camaro, I thought "Crap" and hoped it would grow on me, and I told myself, "Its going to have this bad *** engine and IRS..."

I kept telling myself I was a GM guy, and that the Mustang has only 300 horses and a live real axle, that the Camaro didn't look so bad, but it wasn't until I saw the Camaro in person that swayed my opinion. You really do have to see it in person to appreciate it
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i wuld like to see a fairly simple engine lineup.
V6 = 3.6 dohc engine or anything with a litle pep and decent milage

V8 either a ls2 or a ls3 and let the sub models like z28 and SS be a package thing with different diffs suspension and options.

then a limited edition monster camaro (simmilar to the gt500 stang) with whatever engine suits

i say keep it like it was before so that the camaro wuld be sufficiently more powerfull than the normal GT stang but not to powerfull to keep costs down.

i think that if this car is to appeal to the masses it has to keep the performance in check whitout going overboard and be a sensible car to own. i mean a propperly geared ls2 with a displacement on demand technology culd actualy get very good milage
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i went with option 2. the V6 will already have 260hp. why waste time with a 300hp v8.
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I can bet money that the powertrain will go like this. base model v6: 3.6 250hp. 20-25k. Z28: 6.0 360hp motor from G8 28-35k. SS: 6.2 ls3 430hp 35-42k and maybe just maybe a ZL1 type with the ls8 6.2 supercharged 550hp, but i can garantee at least 50k for that. But it should definitly take care of the gt500 and be compairibly priced with it. I have held off 4 years now from getting a Ls1 for the reason of buying the next camaro, so it better be worth it.
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Originally Posted by Kevano26
by the time all this happens the LSx engines will be at the end of their life cycle so it wont be any of those.
I dont really believe that the LSX series engines will be at the end of their life cycle at all. Take the first generation small blocks as a prime example. There is a lot of life left in the pushrod engines and rumor has even Ford is going back to them becuase the LSX series has proven that it is cheaper for one and can still hang with and out do the Competition. As far as economy goes my WS6 in stock form used to get over 30MPG on the highway and even at 560+ to the wheels and a 410 gear it gets 24MPG so GM has a good thing going with the LSX series. So if it is releable and econimical why should they spend all the money to develope something new when the LSX series offers the most bang for you buck in both stock and modified forms. Just my 2 cents
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LS8

This is another 6.2-liter, smallblock V8 with a supercharger. It also features an intercooler integrated into the intake manifold. This will be the motor going into the top-end Zeta platform cars. The most premium Camaro, probably called Z28, will get this motor.

That said, original plans had this motor going into a Denali SUV or truck, however, those plans now seem to be canceled. Again, this maybe a result of CAFE.

Some of Holden's vehicles may also get this motor eventually. Initial specs have this motor at 475 to 500 horsepower with a choice of manual or automatic transmissions.

When the LS7 dies, the Z06 will get this motor. Possibly, slightly uptuned from the version the Zeta cars would get. This motor will start production in first or second quarter of 2010.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/a-detail...tor-plans.html

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The new Chevrolet Camaro concept speculation continues to brew on. Recently, ideas that GM might squeeze the Z06's LS7 engine were passed around, as GM's Bob Lutz hinted at the possibility. An LS2 is a logical choice as well and is a proven alternative. But, will the LS2 be the proper caliber of weapon to shoot down the upcoming Dodge Challenger or Ford’s Shelby GT500 Mustang? In the August issue of GM High-Tech Performance, the concept of upping the ante to a supercharged LS9 engine in the Camaro SS was mentioned. As if the LS9 isn't enough, some reports indicate GM is in the beginning stages of developing a larger LS-style engine, packing 8.3 liters of displacement and 900 horsepower. At this point, it is too speculative to assume anything, but this card could just be Chevrolet's ace of spades.



8.3L???
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Ok I'm gonna go out on a limb here.

v6: 3.6L making 260 hp
Z28: 6.0L making 364 hp (same engine as G8 GT)
SS: 6.2L making 550 hp (same engine as new CTS-V)

I think these will be the engines for the new Camaro based on the engines that are already or soon will be available from GM making the most economical sense.
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i am drooling at the thought of a Camaro coming of the line with 550hp.
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Very good and problably very close too.

I think that the ls2 might be use for the z28 it is still being used under the trailblazer.

Originally Posted by EnfuegoZ28
Ok I'm gonna go out on a limb here.

v6: 3.6L making 260 hp
Z28: 6.0L making 364 hp (same engine as G8 GT)
SS: 6.2L making 550 hp (same engine as new CTS-V)

I think these will be the engines for the new Camaro based on the engines that are already or soon will be available from GM making the most economical sense.
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I believe I heard that 2009 will be the last year for the LS2 since that is the last year of the current Trailblazer body style. They could put a detuned version of the LS3 in the Z, but I think the 364 hp 6.0L would be better just so you don't scare off too many non car people with a big hp number. The LS2 would be a good engine to put in the Z if the continue to produce it.
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Ok guys....

Think about where the market will be in a year or two. Ford is going hog-wild replacing V8's with that Ecoboost turbo six of theirs, including their trucks.

Chevy has been using both Gen III and Gen IV versions of the "Vortec" LS V8's for like a decade now. What technology goes in the Silverados will go in the Camaro and G8. I foresee Direct Injection and VVT at the very least. Remember, GM has a tendency to try out new fuel systems on brand new bodystyle cars...
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just think though.... The new GT500 KR is going to have a 700Hp KB twin screw. How is the LE camaro going to stand even with 550HP??
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Originally Posted by darkcrave
just think though.... The new GT500 KR is going to have a 700Hp KB twin screw. How is the LE camaro going to stand even with 550HP??
Well, I think since it will be about $50k less, we new Camaro owners will have plenty of money to take on the task. Heck, my 4th gen will do the job just nicely.
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Originally Posted by darkcrave
just think though.... The new GT500 KR is going to have a 700Hp KB twin screw. How is the LE camaro going to stand even with 550HP??
Man the mustang ain't getting 700 horses that is a fantazy. Forget it will never happen.
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Originally Posted by Hydramatic
Ok guys....

Think about where the market will be in a year or two. Ford is going hog-wild replacing V8's with that Ecoboost turbo six of theirs, including their trucks.

Chevy has been using both Gen III and Gen IV versions of the "Vortec" LS V8's for like a decade now. What technology goes in the Silverados will go in the Camaro and G8. I foresee Direct Injection and VVT at the very least. Remember, GM has a tendency to try out new fuel systems on brand new bodystyle cars...
I don't agree here Acually chevy goes with its new technology into the vette first. Ex: Introduce the Lt1,Lt4, Ls1, Ls2, Ls3, LS7, and now the Ls9 wich will come supercharge. Are you begening to see a pattern here and possibly a future to the chevt line up???? That is right They will go Force Induction too.
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Originally Posted by bboyxclub
I don't agree here Acually chevy goes with its new technology into the vette first. Ex: Introduce the Lt1,Lt4, Ls1, Ls2, Ls3, LS7, and now the Ls9 wich will come supercharge. Are you begening to see a pattern here and possibly a future to the chevt line up???? That is right They will go Force Induction too.
I was just saying that whatever methods for increasing fuel economy in the trucks will almost certainly show up in the smaller cars. Sorry if I wasn't very clear!lol


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