G8 GXP 13.0? camaro 13.4? wtf
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G8 GXP 13.0? camaro 13.4? wtf
What are your thoughts on the rated 1/4 mile of the gxp at 13.0 at 108 with a curb weight of 4050 and a rated horsepower of 402?
Is GM just underrating the camaro to surprise everyone or did they overrate this car?
how did they only pull a 13.4 at 108 with a 6 speed car weighing 200 pounds less and 20 more rated horsepower (which probably isnt even true but still)
Did they not bother to try and get a good time with the 6 speed? even so the auto only pulled a 13.3.
Am I missing something? rated times look like BS to me.
although pontiac always had the firehawk etc. rated at faster times than the camaro. maybe this is just a pontiac thing.
Is GM just underrating the camaro to surprise everyone or did they overrate this car?
how did they only pull a 13.4 at 108 with a 6 speed car weighing 200 pounds less and 20 more rated horsepower (which probably isnt even true but still)
Did they not bother to try and get a good time with the 6 speed? even so the auto only pulled a 13.3.
Am I missing something? rated times look like BS to me.
although pontiac always had the firehawk etc. rated at faster times than the camaro. maybe this is just a pontiac thing.
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GM has always rated performance cars conservatively. Simple logic will tell you that if less powered G8-GT, which also weighs more, can run mid-13s stock...then a lighter Camaro with more power should run better.
Don't worry about the magazine hype, remember there is a ton of potential under the hood with that LS3. Who cares what they run stock???
Don't worry about the magazine hype, remember there is a ton of potential under the hood with that LS3. Who cares what they run stock???
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Exactly, and its been said before....the runs on the 5th gens were done by GM engineers as more then likely shakedown runs in the automatic to. Get a good driver in one in good conditions....manual or auto and the times would be MUCH better.
It's the same with any car really. I'm sure it's the same for the Challenger and Mustangs to.
It's the same with any car really. I'm sure it's the same for the Challenger and Mustangs to.
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What are your thoughts on the rated 1/4 mile of the gxp at 13.0 at 108 with a curb weight of 4050 and a rated horsepower of 402?
Is GM just underrating the camaro to surprise everyone or did they overrate this car?
how did they only pull a 13.4 at 108 with a 6 speed car weighing 200 pounds less and 20 more rated horsepower (which probably isnt even true but still)
Did they not bother to try and get a good time with the 6 speed? even so the auto only pulled a 13.3.
Am I missing something? rated times look like BS to me.
although pontiac always had the firehawk etc. rated at faster times than the camaro. maybe this is just a pontiac thing.
Is GM just underrating the camaro to surprise everyone or did they overrate this car?
how did they only pull a 13.4 at 108 with a 6 speed car weighing 200 pounds less and 20 more rated horsepower (which probably isnt even true but still)
Did they not bother to try and get a good time with the 6 speed? even so the auto only pulled a 13.3.
Am I missing something? rated times look like BS to me.
although pontiac always had the firehawk etc. rated at faster times than the camaro. maybe this is just a pontiac thing.
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I bet you a kajillion bucks the 5th. gen. is a 12 sec. car consistently if the GXP is 13 flat. So there's no need to fret, we hope. Off topic, has every1 noticed the gas prices have dropped dramatically?
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Thats exactly what I was thinking when i saw the numbers!... "the new Camaro is estimated to be a mid 13 sec car!??!...somethings not right here" I think GM is just pandering to the Corvette owners again, but this time their going to the exteme with the numbers
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yep, Bush lifted the executive ban on off shore drilling and speculators have noticed. Now if f'ing congress would just lift their ban we could get somewhere and prices would drop even more.
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Can you show me a link to the literature on the 13.0 or is this just more assumptions? It would honestly be cool to see if you can show me. It would prove they got it right for once.
When they ran it against the mach 1 I remember them being very low 13's. Car and driver...which is never known for showing a fast time ran it to a 13.3. People have ran a 13 flat with a stock ls2 gto before im sure. Thats how they should be rated...as fast as they can get the ****** to go. Not this BS.
If they didnt run them what kind of an estimate is a 13.4 when they estimate the gxp at 13.0?
Obviously 2 different people did the estimating and one of them was on meth.
When they ran it against the mach 1 I remember them being very low 13's. Car and driver...which is never known for showing a fast time ran it to a 13.3. People have ran a 13 flat with a stock ls2 gto before im sure. Thats how they should be rated...as fast as they can get the ****** to go. Not this BS.
If they didnt run them what kind of an estimate is a 13.4 when they estimate the gxp at 13.0?
Obviously 2 different people did the estimating and one of them was on meth.
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Don't ever go by manufacturer's estimates or even magazine times when trying to determine what a car is actually capable of at the track.
I have no doubts that both a stock Camaro SS and the stock G8 GXP will be able to hit high 12s in decent air.
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True, they did miss the mark a tiny bit...bone stock '05/'06 GTOs have hit 12.9s (12.8s even?) instead.
Don't ever go by manufacturer's estimates or even magazine times when trying to determine what a car is actually capable of at the track.
I have no doubts that both a stock Camaro SS and the stock G8 GXP will be able to hit high 12s in decent air.
Don't ever go by manufacturer's estimates or even magazine times when trying to determine what a car is actually capable of at the track.
I have no doubts that both a stock Camaro SS and the stock G8 GXP will be able to hit high 12s in decent air.
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What are your thoughts on the rated 1/4 mile of the gxp at 13.0 at 108 with a curb weight of 4050 and a rated horsepower of 402?
Is GM just underrating the camaro to surprise everyone or did they overrate this car?
how did they only pull a 13.4 at 108 with a 6 speed car weighing 200 pounds less and 20 more rated horsepower (which probably isnt even true but still)
Did they not bother to try and get a good time with the 6 speed? even so the auto only pulled a 13.3.
Am I missing something? rated times look like BS to me.
although pontiac always had the firehawk etc. rated at faster times than the camaro. maybe this is just a pontiac thing.
Is GM just underrating the camaro to surprise everyone or did they overrate this car?
how did they only pull a 13.4 at 108 with a 6 speed car weighing 200 pounds less and 20 more rated horsepower (which probably isnt even true but still)
Did they not bother to try and get a good time with the 6 speed? even so the auto only pulled a 13.3.
Am I missing something? rated times look like BS to me.
although pontiac always had the firehawk etc. rated at faster times than the camaro. maybe this is just a pontiac thing.
According to GM literature, the 05 GTO's were supposed to hit 13.0 in stock form. Yeah, that turned out real well!