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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Why did GM include a torque guage? Certianly there could have been more useful guages to have include. The biggest thing I don't get about it is, for the most aprt, the LSx has a pretty flat torque curve, so the guage is not really going to fluctuate. I would think an HP guage would have been more "informative," or at least more active in its fluctations.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Seems dumb to me too. I agree there could have been plenty of other gauges they could have put in there. It's just a stupid novelty gauge that will serve no actual purpose. Atleast the other ones are useful.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 20SS07
Seems dumb to me too. I agree there could have been plenty of other gauges they could have put in there. It's just a stupid novelty gauge that will serve no actual purpose. Atleast the other ones are useful.
just hope they aren't 'dummy' gauges like the coolant gauge in 99+ ls1 f-bodies
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 383ss
just hope they aren't 'dummy' gauges like the coolant gauge in 99+ ls1 f-bodies
i was thinking as long as its acuurate it might be fun to watch. if it jumps all over the place or just stays in one spot that would suck.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Maybe they were going to put the boost gauge there for the Z28.... just needed something to stick in there for now.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Its different! I find it quite unique.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Default maybe they're being sneaky

Joe and Joelina Average know a little about horsepower, but don't even know that torque exists. It could be a little customer education when they notice- "hmm, I accelerate the best when that them there torque gage is topped out."

And the next time they go car shopping, they might be interested to look up the torque numbers as well as HP.

And GM might be hoping that they say to themselves, "gee, those GM LSx products have a lot of torque. That means it'll be fun to drive. I'll buy a GM!"

A clever plan, indeed! muahaha!
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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It's a gimic just like the interior "light tubes". I wonder how much that lighting stuff costs/weighs.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
i was thinking as long as its acuurate it might be fun to watch. if it jumps all over the place or just stays in one spot that would suck.
Me thinks most of them will stay pegged.
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Originally Posted by 0000000000
Its different! I find it quite unique.
OMG, I agree with you!!! I think it's a cool addition
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BadMrFrossty
OMG, I agree with you!!! I think it's a cool addition
^ Who woulda thought! I imagine it will be dialed into what the RPM's register. Would that make it dummy? I mean, lets say you V8 has 4 cylinders with bad compression, the guage wouldnt reflect the torque loss???
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Originally Posted by MasterEvilAce
Me thinks most of them will stay pegged.

LOL that might be fun.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Maybe they were going to put the boost gauge there for the Z28.... just needed something to stick in there for now.
That would be nice.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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It's so you know when the torque management nanny is taking over.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 0000000000
^ Who woulda thought! I imagine it will be dialed into what the RPM's register. Would that make it dummy? I mean, lets say you V8 has 4 cylinders with bad compression, the guage wouldnt reflect the torque loss???
Way more to it than that. Throttle position would have to be included with RPMS.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 383ss
just hope they aren't 'dummy' gauges like the coolant gauge in 99+ ls1 f-bodies
Could someone elaborate on this a little?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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No, it does not make sense...but I love the new gauges. No sense...but it is cool. Kinda like the power gauge on the Bug.

The 99+ LS1's had a "coolant gauge." However, it was not functional.

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anyone know how it works?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lcsbird
Could someone elaborate on this a little?
The TQ reading wont be exactly what the engine is putting out. Think of it as a preset. GM knows what TQ levels the engine puts out from 100 rpm to redline. IMO, the TQ reading on the guage will be derived from the RPM configuration, hence a dummy guage.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 0000000000
The TQ reading wont be exactly what the engine is putting out. Think of it as a preset. GM knows what TQ levels the engine puts out from 100 rpm to redline. IMO, the TQ reading on the guage will be derived from the RPM configuration, hence a dummy guage.
But how do the temp gauges on the ls1s work if they're not functional, what are they running off of
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