JIBBBY

Curious, does anyone know how much power you can run thru a Stock C5 Vette, includes motor and drivetrain?

I am interested in a C6 but am considering saving some money and going with a C5 and boosting away...

I hear with bolt on mod's the C5 can make approx. 400whp... Now I am wondering what the car can take with boost? Any info. would be helpful...

StoleIt

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Boosting away? So you want to go forced induction? You are pretty much safe on 5-7psi in a stock motor, with tune and fuel. The rest of the car should be pretty safe also as long as your aren't doing high RPM drops and launches.

That equates to sub 500hp.

Yes with H/C/I you can make 400rwhp with an Ls1/6 engine.

If you want a C6, get one with an Ls3. Those engines are pretty bad ***. And will make plenty more power per mod than an Ls1/6.


Edit: Or buy my car! It's 444rwhp, right what you're looking for!

chavez885

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C6's are badass...but a bit more than a C5, LS2 or LS3 makes gobs of power, neither would be disappointing.

400 whp? MAYBE a C5 z06, but a bolt on LS1 c5 will not touch 400rwhp. Nothing wrong with a C5 though, you can make 450+ rwhp safely with the right combo.

94lt1m6

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You can hit 400RWHP easy with bolt ons Headers, x pipe, Lid, MAF Fast 92/92, And a tune should get you there no problem? At least through an m6 i would think?

Is nitrous considered a bolt on

JIBBBY

Call me an idiot and I will understand completely..... I thought the C6's are the newer Z06's with the LS7 7.0 liter motor...Some C6 Vette's are not Zo6's and come equiped with the LS3 6.2 liter motor is what I am hearing and reading?
I was thinking the C5's came with the 6.2 liter LS3 motor, man I need to research this as I am a bit lost...

I will not get anything less then the LS3 so what are my options?... I was thinking of getting a standard Vette with the LS3 motor over a Z06 with LS7, and thought that was the C5 Vette, hmmm?...Take the LS3 Vette save money and boost with either a twin turb or supercharger system... No more Nitrous for me, as it can be very destructive to a motor over time.

Can someone be so kind as to describe and clarify the Vettes, models and motors for me... If not I can google away...

Thanks for the reply's... I know more about the motors then the vette cars and models that they come in...


PS. I have read a few times 400whp can be achieved on the LS1 motor with agressive cams, intake, complete exhaust and fine tuning...(bolt on mods) 6.2 LS3? (guessing 500whp).... 7.0 LS7 I've seen sport 550whp with bolt on mods N/A...

SOM02WS6

LS3 came in C6 vettes only. I think 2007 or 2008 and newer. C6 vettes 2005-07 came with lS2's

C5 ZO6 came with the LS6 5.7L

C6ZO6 came with the LS7 7.0L

PowerShift408

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C5 and C6 refer to what generation the car is, i.e. a C6 is a sixth generation Corvette

C5 Motor options: LS1 in normal Vettes, LS6 in the Z06
C6 Motor options: 2005-2007 regular Vettes got the LS2, while 2008 and newer got the LS3. All Z06s got the LS7, and the ZR1 gets the LS9.

JIBBBY

Thanks alot for the breakdown fellas...Greatly appreciated...

So to obtain a Vette with the LS3 engine you need to purchase a newer model C6 Vette which will most likely break the bank... That's not happening..

So infact the older 2006 Z06 is still the best choice and bang for the buck... Jay the moderator has made a point of this in his post..... Claims the 2006 Z06's can sell for as low as $42,000.... Any thoughts on this?

I'm really looking to get a new vette look with around 500-600whp for around 40 grand when all said and done..... Any suggestions on how to do this? Best model, motor, boost/bolt ons and price... I am thinking the 06 Z06 with bolt on mods but that will be closer to 50 grand when said and done..

streetassasin

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I say a h/c c5 z06 with a d1sc

PowerShift408

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I'd say a h/c c5 LS1 vette with a little forced induction. You can get one for under $20k...

94lt1m6

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2004 Base vette, with a MS4, AFR 225's, and 10lbs of boost should be pretty sick, somewhere around 700 or so RWHP I would think

streetassasin

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I dont thiunk you would want to run that cam with f.i. since it would probably bleed off boost and the stock bottom wont last long at all pushing 700 rwhp

I still say a nice combo would be a c5 z06 with a pat g cam, ported 317 heads and a D1

chavez885

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no just no..

SlwSVT

For the original poster: The C6 Vette was born in 2005, the 05-07 have the 6.0l LS2 making 400 at the crank. The 08 C6 Vette has the 6.2l LS3 (14 more cubes and the L92 heads/intake combo), it makes 430 at the crank stock. You can find a decent mileage 05 C6 now for 25k-30k very easily.

Though the 08LS3 is a upgrade in alot of different areas, the heads/intake are the majority of the power increase. With the L92 Heads/intake on a LS2, it is only down about 10-15horses to the LS3. And that head swap upgrade has become very popular and cost worthy. Alot of LS2 Vette guys, swap in the L92 Heads/Intake and a mild cam. With supporting mods, they make 460-470rwhp all day. So, you can find a used LS2 C6 for a very fair price or go all the way for an 08LS3, which can be found brand new in the very low 40's.

JIBBBY

It appears I am not the only one that does not know exactly what motor goes into what year Vette... Alot of different posts... It appears you my friend really broke it down the best...THANKS!!!

The 05 C6 sounds great to me... When spending 25-30k that will give me alot of extra cash to put towards boost...Now how is the LS2 stock bottom for horsepower? What can you push these motors up to? Anyone know?


Thanks again for all the replies..I am learning as we go..

SlwSVT

These motors have hypercraptic pistons in them. They will not withstand alot of abuse. The compression is also 10.9-1 stock. However, if you were to add a good cam, FAST intake, long tubes and a centrifugal blower running about 8#'s of boost the car would run all day, very very strong. An easy 600rwhp car on low boost with about a 3200# weight. Definately a strong runner! I myself have another car that is a built turbo car, so I went the other way with my Vette. Ported heads milled, custom cam, FAST intake, long tubes and a 150 shot of juice. That is the other way to get to 600+ rwhp.

Cole Train

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get a C5 and slap on a Kenne Bell or Magnuson S/C lol then you have a reason to get a badass hood and will have the nice torque curve of a Roots/twinscrew blower I have heads/cam/bolt on's on my '98 C5(LS1) and made 409rwhp. On my first tune i made 391rwhp. so with bolt on's only, your gonna be hardpressed to get 400rwhp. Maybe 400 flywheel. I've got full exhaust, heads, cam and made just over 400.I'd say your best bet honestly would be a '02-'04 C5 Z06(LS6) that is boosted. They can push over 500rwhp with alot of choices in boost options, are lightweight, come in 6 speed only, are more few and far between when it comes to seeing them on a daily basis, and are one hell of a bang for the buck right now. Early C6's('05) are notorious for little issues, such as key fobs not working, the column lock(also notorious on C5's) and other stuff that is common on C5/6's. The thing with a C5 is they are a GREAT value and you save a ton of money now to spend towards mods. There are a few guys on CorvetteForum that have went back from C6's to a C5 and think it was the best decision they've made. Also C5's have pop-up headlights and the C6's don't. but C5's don't have the Navigation option(early C6 option was crap anyway compared to alot of the aftermarket ones and later GM navi)

Cole Train

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Also when the C6's first came out a used to drool all the time. Now the longer they've been out i've stopped with that unless it's a Z06 I still love the looks of the C5 better except when it comes to a C6 Z06 which is sex on wheels

JIBBBY

Yeah, I love the look of the C6 Z06's too...Hard to beat...

Now I am hearing alot of talk about Supercharging when applying boost to these LSx motors... I would think the Centrifugal blowers are the only type of blowers that would even fit under the hood of a Vette. A root blower was mentioned but I would venture to guess a cut hole would have to be made in the hood or else it would be real tiny and weak root blower squeezed under the stock hood... I love the root S/C's but I don't see that happening..

Now, I have been looking into the airpowersystem company twin turbos setups, (APS).. Although, they are a bit pricey, it appears they are a very good setup, with nice customer support too...However, I am concerned about how low the exhaust turbo's mount to the ground... Wondering if you can even drive the vette when raining?

Can somebody discuss the APS turbo systems compared to a root/cenrifugal systems? The great thing about turbo's is you don't lose horsepower from the crank turning the chargers with the belts... You may get better torque and throttle response from the charger setups, but with the LS2's motors already providing good torque N/A is it even a factor when considering boost? Turbo's can be made to pull more power more effeciently in lamens terms... Throttle response with blowers is hard to beat though? Anyone?


http://www.airpowersystems.com/corvette/tts07.htm



I love the ideas, info, and suggestions you guys are providing on this link... Kuddo's to all, thanks... Opening my eyes to many different potential and possible setups...

I don't think I mentioned my basic goal is too have a nice Vette look that sports around 600whp... That is what I realistically am shooting for as I am looking at the used Vettes now daily...Recycler.com, autotrader, and Ebay...

Dissapointed to hear the C5's have little issues? Hmmmm?

99RebelZ28

If I was in your position and had 40-45K to spend I would be looking for an 06 Z06. This car is one bad **** in stock form. You're looking at a less than 3200 Lb car with a 7K redline and 440ish RWHP STOCK. You can't get that kind of power out of an ls2 or even ls3 without doing motor work. Then you could save up for bolts ons and a nice cam and make another 100 RWHP. I believe with heads and intake added to the other stuff you could be making close to 600 RWHP and lots of torque..... someone correct me if I'm wrong. Even in stock form theres not much out there that can touch a C6 Z06. If I had 40K to spend on a car thats what I would do.