How will Shell's new "nitrogen-enhanced" gas effect my mileage/performance?
03-04-2009, 08:46 AM
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How will Shell's new "nitrogen-enhanced" gas effect my mileage/performance? http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10185640-48.html
Shell announces new nitrogen-enhanced gasoline
by Antuan Goodwin
Starting today, all Shell gas stations will be pumping a new fuel: Shell's nitrogen-enhanced gasoline.
Before you start speculating about the wonder fuel of tomorrow, understand that this nitrogen-enriched gasoline differs from the gas Shell was pumping yesterday in its engine-cleaning detergents and additives.
Shell claims that its nitrogen-enriched gasoline cleans better than before and protects better against engine buildup. Of note, all three grades of gasoline will contain the nitrogen-enriched detergents, with its V-Power premium grade containing five times the government-mandated amount. The results are fewer intake deposits, cleaner combustion chambers, and less fuel injector fouling and intake valve sticking.
Citing the rising complexity of new direct-injected and hybridized engines, Shell also claims that this new fuel is better suited to the rigors of modern drive trains.
Considering that detergents and additives are federally mandated in the United States, and just about every brand of gasoline being pumped today makes some mention of the power of their detergents, we don't see Shell's gas as being very revolutionary. We're also inclined to believe that the "nitrogen enhanced" title is more of a gimmick than anything else. However, any step toward cleaner, better-running engines is a good one in our book.
Shell stated that it didn't expect this new nitrogen-enhanced gasoline to result in an increase in fuel price. But with gas prices being set by individual stations and changing daily, that will be nearly impossible to measure.
Shell announces new nitrogen-enhanced gasoline
by Antuan Goodwin
Starting today, all Shell gas stations will be pumping a new fuel: Shell's nitrogen-enhanced gasoline.
Before you start speculating about the wonder fuel of tomorrow, understand that this nitrogen-enriched gasoline differs from the gas Shell was pumping yesterday in its engine-cleaning detergents and additives.
Shell claims that its nitrogen-enriched gasoline cleans better than before and protects better against engine buildup. Of note, all three grades of gasoline will contain the nitrogen-enriched detergents, with its V-Power premium grade containing five times the government-mandated amount. The results are fewer intake deposits, cleaner combustion chambers, and less fuel injector fouling and intake valve sticking.
Citing the rising complexity of new direct-injected and hybridized engines, Shell also claims that this new fuel is better suited to the rigors of modern drive trains.
Considering that detergents and additives are federally mandated in the United States, and just about every brand of gasoline being pumped today makes some mention of the power of their detergents, we don't see Shell's gas as being very revolutionary. We're also inclined to believe that the "nitrogen enhanced" title is more of a gimmick than anything else. However, any step toward cleaner, better-running engines is a good one in our book.
Shell stated that it didn't expect this new nitrogen-enhanced gasoline to result in an increase in fuel price. But with gas prices being set by individual stations and changing daily, that will be nearly impossible to measure.
03-04-2009, 11:19 AM
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I've almost always bought from Shell since #1 it's the only local station that's top-tiered, and #2 I get 5% back when using their credit card. This does just sound like another gimmick though.
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03-06-2009, 06:45 PM
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should be better than alcohol (ethanol) I never heard of this and I work for Shell all the time ( inspector pressure vessels, piping , etc) I will look into this and ask some of the engineers and get a answer on if it's a marketing scheme or something beneficial to the environment and our cars.
03-08-2009, 07:49 AM
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ive noticed my engine runs better off of exxon over shell so ill probably stick with that.
on a side note, nitrous has nitrogen over pure oxygen because it makes it more stable. i wonder if you can up the compression or psi with nitrogen fuel...
on a side note, nitrous has nitrogen over pure oxygen because it makes it more stable. i wonder if you can up the compression or psi with nitrogen fuel...
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I was reading some chemical crap about it on google and found some info posted by other people... I do believe over time you might be able to add some timing because of the fuel
03-08-2009, 09:28 AM
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I wonder how much long term study was performed?
With the extra nitrogen and excessive combustion chamber temps, I would expect to see even higher NOx output on a car that would have been borderline utilizing older fuel.
I must be missing something as I can't think that the "best and brightest" of their engineers overlooking something like this.
Or it could be they just don't care. Maybe it is a philosophy of "well, if the engine is running properly, there will be no extra NOx so if your engine isn't 100% that is not our problem"?
With the extra nitrogen and excessive combustion chamber temps, I would expect to see even higher NOx output on a car that would have been borderline utilizing older fuel.
I must be missing something as I can't think that the "best and brightest" of their engineers overlooking something like this.
Or it could be they just don't care. Maybe it is a philosophy of "well, if the engine is running properly, there will be no extra NOx so if your engine isn't 100% that is not our problem"?
