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Old 10-28-2009, 05:55 PM
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So i recently sold my 02 6 spd T/A full bolt on (370rwhp 385 rwtq) with the hopes of getting me an ls2 vette...
To tell you the truth, i kinda regret not driving my T/A not as much as it needed but anyway. I have been trying to find a cool daily driver but saw nothing better than fbody both bang for the buck and appearance wise.

But i was doing some thinking rescently and need to know your opinion whether or not it would be a good idea.
So the purpose of the next buy will be DD, unlike my previous T/A that was a garage queen with low mileage

Im thinking of buying a stocker 98 or 99 WS6 or SS A4 for no more than $6000 with no more than 120K miles. My plans are staying smog legal since i live in CA

I was wondering if these mods would get me into 12's??????? 3.73 gears, Stall, catback, lid and thats it... Good enough??

Im trying to have a relatively quick DD street car that would see a lot of traffic and many posers who race light to light.

I think this plan is much wiser than spending 25-30 grand for a ls2 vette and having similar performance...

What do you guys think? Would those mods be good enough for high 12's??
Also, is 4000 stall a good idea??


Thanx guys
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Cutout, converter, lid, tires.. Should be good for mid-high 12s..

I would recommend a 4000, the difference is minimal for DD but the difference great at WOT.
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thanx, i just wanted to add a cutout to my list but you beat me to it, thanx lemons
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with those mods i was hoping i could keep up with an SRT8 dodge (charger, challenger...)
Thats what my dad is edging me onto, but i just cant pay all that paper for that lol
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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
with those mods i was hoping i could keep up with an SRT8 dodge (charger, challenger...)
Thats what my dad is edging me onto, but i just cant pay all that paper for that lol
You would walk either one of those cars hard..
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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
I was wondering if these mods would get me into 12's??????? 3.73 gears, Stall, catback, lid and thats it... Good enough??
12s for sure, assuming you plan on some decent tires, and there's nothing wrong with the trans or motor.

For referance, my '00 WS6 went a best of 12.69 with a lid, catback, 3500 stall, and BFG DRs. And that was with stock 3.23 gears too.
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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
with those mods i was hoping i could keep up with an SRT8 dodge (charger, challenger...)
I haven't raced an SRT8 car, but my '02 Z28 (which is totally stock other than an air lid) has no problem destroying the 5.7 R/T Chargers. And my Z has 2.73 gears too.
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verrryyy nice! im liking the outcomes. I will try to pick up a clean car, maybe even a vert if im lucky...
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I think you will be in the 12s....I've run a best of 13.03 @ 107.77 w/o a stall or headers. I'm getting a pulley and a LS6 intake, which will put me in the 12s before the end of this season.
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Just realize your gas mileage will suck unless the vertor is locked on the hiway........
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By the way... i know this might be an age old question, but is 4000 stall good for daily driving? i mean, will the car really revv up to 4000 RPM to take off from a stop????
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i think you need a tighter converter. meaning it takes more throttle to go higher rpm off the line. they say they know the stall is there but it isnt like its bad.
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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
By the way... i know this might be an age old question, but is 4000 stall good for daily driving? i mean, will the car really revv up to 4000 RPM to take off from a stop????
No, I got a 4000 stall with bolt-ons, it's not that bad, but the gas mileage will suck around town.

I'd say 2-2.5k to get it going good. 3krpms if you are going up a steep incline.

Once it locks, there is no worries. My lock up is 50mph.
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i wood go with a built 10 bolt, 4.10s, and 700r4 trans with mvb, and 4000 stall, lid, headders, electronic cutout, intake and tb, and some weight reduction....
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Originally Posted by jts98z28
i wood go with a built 10 bolt, 4.10s, and 700r4 trans with mvb, and 4000 stall, lid, headders, electronic cutout, intake and tb, and some weight reduction....
thanx, but the car would be smog legal and thus slow... dang CA
Pretty much will make it into a fun DD, that could handle a poser srt8's, ricers, and many poser dudes on 5, 3, series bmw's thinking their **** is fast lol (those people are worse than ricers to me)
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Originally Posted by jts98z28
i wood go with a built 10 bolt, 4.10s, and 700r4 trans with mvb, and 4000 stall, lid, headders, electronic cutout, intake and tb, and some weight reduction....
I would not recommend the 700R4, pointless conversion IMO. Either build the 4L60E when it breaks or convert to a TH350/400 if you want a manual valve body race trans. Anyway, the OP specifically said that he wanted to build a daily driver that would see a lot of traffic, so I'd never recommend a manual valve body for that application.

No point in "building" the 10 bolt. When it breaks, get a 12 bolt. And 4.10s + a 4000 stall are a bit much for lots of daily driving with an A4. 3.73 and a 3500-4000 stall would be a better choice.
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Well, so far info gained: cutout, lid, 3.73's (or stock 3.23's), 3500 stall. Not bad.

Just gotta hope the tranny holds up...
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might as well stick with the 3.23 and go with a 3200-3600 stall.
i'm also in ca, dealing with that crap...

biggest problem is tires/traction. i went with a 3600 stall and nitrous. the combination really wakes the car up.

your gas mileage will take a hit, especially where you're at with traffic and city driving. whenever guys tell you your gas mileage won't change much, consider they're probably living out in the sticks where 99.99999999999999994% of their driving is highway with the torque converter clutch locked. you'll be giving it a bit more gas than before to get it going, but you get used to it. i lost about 3-5mpg, but i can't keep my foot off the accelerator.

when you go up hills (mostly at slower speeds), people will think your clutch is slipping because they hear your RPMs are up, but you're not going anywhere. of course if you mash the throttle, you disappear quick.

LS1 convertible with a torque converter is a good thing. but if you plan on hanging with 12 second cars, better throw on a nitrous kit for any roll races you might have on the freeway (especially with the wind drag if the top is down).
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I think you would be good but recommend a 3600 stall
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
might as well stick with the 3.23 and go with a 3200-3600 stall.
i'm also in ca, dealing with that crap...

biggest problem is tires/traction. i went with a 3600 stall and nitrous. the combination really wakes the car up.

your gas mileage will take a hit, especially where you're at with traffic and city driving. whenever guys tell you your gas mileage won't change much, consider they're probably living out in the sticks where 99.99999999999999994% of their driving is highway with the torque converter clutch locked. you'll be giving it a bit more gas than before to get it going, but you get used to it. i lost about 3-5mpg, but i can't keep my foot off the accelerator.

when you go up hills (mostly at slower speeds), people will think your clutch is slipping because they hear your RPMs are up, but you're not going anywhere. of course if you mash the throttle, you disappear quick.

LS1 convertible with a torque converter is a good thing. but if you plan on hanging with 12 second cars, better throw on a nitrous kit for any roll races you might have on the freeway (especially with the wind drag if the top is down).
hows the stock 460le in these cars? After how many miles i should be worried about tranny going out, assuming previous owner didnt beat on the car....????? And if it does go out, how much will i be looking into?



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