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Old 03-21-2011, 08:00 PM
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I saw a pic of a cut away of the stock muffler on another forum and it wasn't a very good one so I decided to redo it. I just installed a Hooker Cat-Back and thought it would be very interesting to see just what is inside the stock muffler. Here is what I found.


First, I cut away the outside metal revealing a layer of fiberglass. This layer was only about an 1/8th to a 1/4" thick.


Under the fiberglass was another layer of metal.


Second I cut way the other layer of metal revealing the actual internals.


View from the passenger side

View from driver side.
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Good post, now I see why we picked up 38rwhp on my brothers cam only setup last weekend. With the cutout closed the car wouldn't make over 363 rwhp, first pull with the cutout open it made 401 rwhp. Stock Muffler = Massive Restriction
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big *** muffler with a bunch of baffles lol.
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Haha I KNEW the power increase wasn't all in my head the night I cut that thing off...
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Very nice pics. The stock muffler is just garbage.
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No wonder.. Thats funny i saved mine when i took it off for this very thing, never got around to it though! Looks like i can just toss it now
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Great pics! i always wondered what it looks like on the inside.
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Great thread! I'm glad my stock muffler is LONG gone!
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Awesome pictures. Good thing i don't have mufflers haha
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I was just thinking. Do you think this would be sticky worthy? I know a lot of people will probably reference people back to these photos to explain the restrictiveness of the stock muffler. Just wondering.
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Sticky a good idea, with this info a data base could be constructed with the internal design of other mufflers. You could then see why some flow better and why some sound different. So many choices out there. Now I wonder what the inside of my slp DD looks like. I'm sure this info is all out on the web but to have it all in one place would be sweet, saying its not already a sticky.
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Ha, when I first started reading I thought you were going to find some sort of dead critters or something
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mine never came with a stock muffler.
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Thanks for posting. Does anyone have a cut away of the dual/dual muffler?
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Interesting, good thread

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That pic is consistent with what I've been told several times - the stock 2.75 inch pipe isn't the big power robber, it's the stock muffler, so if you want a cheap upgrade and can't afford a full catback, getting an aftermarket muffler is a great way to go.
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Nice. Mine is in the back of my beater truck going to the scrap yard tomorrow. LOL

It only has 20k miles on it though... maybe I shoud try selling it.
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Wow - just wow. You've done us all a service by showing us how ridiculously restrictive the stock design is. It's like trying to breathe with a plug in each nostril. Ain't gonna work.
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im making 380rwhp with the stock WS6 muffler. anyone ever cut that open so we can compare? now you got me thinking dammit!!!
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Very informative. Thanks for the pics. I vote STICKY.


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