What Does GM do to Overcome the GT500?
02-14-2012, 10:36 PM
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What Does GM do to Overcome the GT500? http://youtu.be/FygVmlmhrO4
How does fifty-five grand for 580 horsepower sound? Probably not as good as the 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 at full scream.
General Motors has come clean with pricing and performance details for the most powerful Camaro ever, and as expected, it's something of a bargain. An official MSRP of $54,995 includes a $900 delivery charge, and that pile of cash buys a 6.2-liter, supercharged and intercooled LSA V8 that's good for 556 lb-ft of torque. The ZL1 will also pack standard Performance Traction Management, a suite of electronic suspension and steering enhancements including magnetic ride control, launch control, traction control, stability control and electric power steering. Chevrolet is also touting the Camaro's track-readiness, thanks to standard rear differential cooler, engine and transmission oil coolers, and brake-cooling ducts.
Chevy's official performance specs for the Camaro ZL1 favor the automatic, which can do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds and cover the quarter-mile in 12.0 seconds at 119 miles per hour. The manual is a tenth of a second slower in both exercises. Know too, that Chevy's stopwatches time from a rolling start. Top speed for the manual is 180 mph and the automatic is four miles per hour faster. Both cars can pull 1.0 g on the skidpad, according to the automaker.
There are only six options on the ZL1, starting with the choice of transmission. An extra $1,185 will get you a six-speed automatic with manual shift mode. Adding bright aluminum wheels will set you back $470, as will stripes. A sunroof is priced at $900, while the carbon fiber hood insert is $600. Finally, a suede package for the steering wheel and shifter is $500. Leather interior is standard, along with heated power seats, and a nine-speaker audio system with USB port and Bluetooth.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1-sports-car/
http://youtu.be/sjCJdcz_Cx8
Let's get right to the numbers, shall we: 650, 600, and 200. The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 produces 650 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque from its supercharged 5.8-liter V-8, and can reportedly top out at more than 200 mph. With the GT500, Ford has put the Bow Tie boys on notice -- the Blue Oval is gunning for the 580-hp Camaro ZL1.
While the super Shelby with its outrageous power output is the marquee Mustang attraction, the rest of the 2013 Ford Mustang lineup has been updated as well. The headlines? New hoods, grilles, headlights, more track-related goodies, an available select-shift automatic, and 420 hp from the GT's 5.0-liter V-8.
For the GT500, Ford's SVT performance engineers went big. Real big. To start, the GT500's 5.4-liter all-aluminum V-8 was bored out to displace 5.8 liters; the block and heads were cross-drilled; and the camshaft profiles updated, among other changes. Next, SVT bolted on a new Eaton TVS Series 2300 supercharger (the same supercharger GM uses on its LS9 engine) to the 5.8-liter mill. Add in a larger cooling fan, a higher-flowing intercooler pump, and a larger intercooler heat exchanger, and you get the GT500's 650 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque, and a top speed north of 200 mph.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1mQDjLLO5
How does fifty-five grand for 580 horsepower sound? Probably not as good as the 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 at full scream.
General Motors has come clean with pricing and performance details for the most powerful Camaro ever, and as expected, it's something of a bargain. An official MSRP of $54,995 includes a $900 delivery charge, and that pile of cash buys a 6.2-liter, supercharged and intercooled LSA V8 that's good for 556 lb-ft of torque. The ZL1 will also pack standard Performance Traction Management, a suite of electronic suspension and steering enhancements including magnetic ride control, launch control, traction control, stability control and electric power steering. Chevrolet is also touting the Camaro's track-readiness, thanks to standard rear differential cooler, engine and transmission oil coolers, and brake-cooling ducts.
Chevy's official performance specs for the Camaro ZL1 favor the automatic, which can do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds and cover the quarter-mile in 12.0 seconds at 119 miles per hour. The manual is a tenth of a second slower in both exercises. Know too, that Chevy's stopwatches time from a rolling start. Top speed for the manual is 180 mph and the automatic is four miles per hour faster. Both cars can pull 1.0 g on the skidpad, according to the automaker.
There are only six options on the ZL1, starting with the choice of transmission. An extra $1,185 will get you a six-speed automatic with manual shift mode. Adding bright aluminum wheels will set you back $470, as will stripes. A sunroof is priced at $900, while the carbon fiber hood insert is $600. Finally, a suede package for the steering wheel and shifter is $500. Leather interior is standard, along with heated power seats, and a nine-speaker audio system with USB port and Bluetooth.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1-sports-car/
http://youtu.be/sjCJdcz_Cx8
Let's get right to the numbers, shall we: 650, 600, and 200. The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 produces 650 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque from its supercharged 5.8-liter V-8, and can reportedly top out at more than 200 mph. With the GT500, Ford has put the Bow Tie boys on notice -- the Blue Oval is gunning for the 580-hp Camaro ZL1.
While the super Shelby with its outrageous power output is the marquee Mustang attraction, the rest of the 2013 Ford Mustang lineup has been updated as well. The headlines? New hoods, grilles, headlights, more track-related goodies, an available select-shift automatic, and 420 hp from the GT's 5.0-liter V-8.
For the GT500, Ford's SVT performance engineers went big. Real big. To start, the GT500's 5.4-liter all-aluminum V-8 was bored out to displace 5.8 liters; the block and heads were cross-drilled; and the camshaft profiles updated, among other changes. Next, SVT bolted on a new Eaton TVS Series 2300 supercharger (the same supercharger GM uses on its LS9 engine) to the 5.8-liter mill. Add in a larger cooling fan, a higher-flowing intercooler pump, and a larger intercooler heat exchanger, and you get the GT500's 650 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque, and a top speed north of 200 mph.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1mQDjLLO5
02-15-2012, 03:34 AM
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I don't know that u could say we were beaten when you think about the fact that the mustang will be limited to only 155 mph unless you buy the track pack.The camaro may have less power but everything else comes standard for around 55,000 and I don't think ford will be able to beat that even with the base model gt500. Another funny thing is there 200 mph top speed claim and there mid 11 second quarter mile times but what they don't tell you is that its actually two different packs not one in the same so they make you choose between which bragging rights you wanna have. Now I'm in no way knocking the ability to have a choice but ford nuts wingers need to be reminded of this when they start throwing specs in our face plus once you add the track packs it will cost more be a model year newer plus the extra 200-300 pounds the camaro has to lug around and it's still that close not really alot for ford to brag about....IMO
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itll be interesting for sure. im glad gm did offer both trannies for the zl1 though, and apprently its "track ready" right off the showroom floor. don't know if the baseline gt500 will be. im not going to make any claims until they both come out and go head to head
02-15-2012, 09:16 AM
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02-15-2012, 11:51 AM
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Imo the mustang has just overcome the camaro again in the for of 5.0, while gm is building some of the best vette's ever, imo the 5th gen camaro's suck all they are is a revamped cts which are great luxury cars but the camaro is suppose to be a sports/muscle car but fall quite short imo so WTF GM, ill pass vette or 5.0 FTW!!!
02-15-2012, 08:36 PM
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If the gt500 ends up costing more for the base model which it will because there's no way it will cost the same as the last model with all the upgrades then you have to spend even more for the track packs then that's not to big of a victory to me.
