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Hey guys I am planning on building out a 2002 Trans Am WS6 dubbed Kitty Killer. My goal is to be faster than a hellcat in a 1/4, so it needs to be faster than 11.2. Any ideas on how this could be achieved?
Hey guys I am planning on building out a 2002 Trans Am WS6 dubbed Kitty Killer. My goal is to be faster than a hellcat in a 1/4, so it needs to be faster than 11.2. Any ideas on how this could be achieved?
All depends what your looking to do. I'm going quicker with just bolt-ons. Most folks will say to go with a power adder, but lots of ways to skin a cat.
mostly just in a 1/4, but the top end would be nice too
You know how it is, the lighter less powerful car can win at a drag strip but much past that it won’t be pretty. So a 370 rear horse (arbitrary numbers) F body might have a chance at a drag strip but if the road gets too long the 600 horse car will be will waiting for you at the end eating a sandwich. From a roll the lighter weaker car will also get slaughtered.. So if you’re looking for 1/4 mile only I’d start with suspension, tires, etc and go from there. If you wanna be faster or as fast as a 600-700 horse car anywhere other than the 1/8 or the 1/4 you’re gonna need about the same amount of power as them.
Last edited by Y2K_Frenzy; 01-24-2024 at 03:12 PM.
All depends what your looking to do. I'm going quicker with just bolt-ons. Most folks will say to go with a power adder, but lots of ways to skin a cat.
This entire website is an active testament to how many different ways one can go fast with any Gen III+ powered vehicle. The options are far and wide; big cube NA, max effort chassis & weight with modest power, various types of power adders/forced induction, max effort NA or FI build with no concessions on weight, any combo of the above, etc. There are TONS of ways to run high 10s/low 11s in one of these cars, it's not a hard thing to do and there is no one magic recipe. It's just a matter of choosing your own adventure.
This entire website is an active testament to how many different ways one can go fast with any Gen III+ powered vehicle. The options are far and wide; big cube NA, max effort chassis & weight with modest power, various types of power adders/forced induction, max effort NA build with no concessions on weight, any combo of the above, etc. There are TONS of ways to run high 10s/low 11s in one of these cars, it's not a hard thing to do and there is no one magic recipe. It's just a matter of choosing your own adventure.
that’s what I’ve learned so far, I’m thinking of going ProCharger with supporting mods. I think that should bring me to mid to high 500s, which in theory would put me in close range to stock Hellcat
This entire website is an active testament to how many different ways one can go fast with any Gen III+ powered vehicle. The options are far and wide; big cube NA, max effort chassis & weight with modest power, various types of power adders/forced induction, max effort NA or FI build with no concessions on weight, any combo of the above, etc. There are TONS of ways to run high 10s/low 11s in one of these cars, it's not a hard thing to do and there is no one magic recipe. It's just a matter of choosing your own adventure.
Lots of $$$ will be needed. Maybe set your eyes and goals on the 485 HP Scatpack with the 392 Hemi. With the Challenger's added 600+ pounds or so, the results could be achieved without the huge layout of funds. Our stock LS1 engines are already about equal with the R/T's 345 Hemi. Even though 310 HP vs 372 HP, the weight difference brings the performance very close, from 1/4 mile to triple digits. I have first hand experience.
Even though 310 HP vs 372 HP, the weight difference brings the performance very close, from 1/4 mile to triple digits. I have first hand experience.
Not to mention the fact that all LS1s actually make ~345-350hp stock; the 305-325hp ratings for various 4th gen F-bodies were just a ploy on GM's part to make the C5's rating seem more impressive.
Lots of $$$ will be needed. Maybe set your eyes and goals on the 485 HP Scatpack with the 392 Hemi. With the Challenger's added 600+ pounds or so, the results could be achieved without the huge layout of funds. Our stock LS1 engines are already about equal with the R/T's 345 Hemi. Even though 310 HP vs 372 HP, the weight difference brings the performance very close, from 1/4 mile to triple digits. I have first hand experience.
The Firebird is stock? Which of your two is faster from 50-100 mph or somewhere in that ballpark?
I imagine it’d probably take a fairly big chunk of added power and money for the LS1 to beat a 600 horsepower vehicle at that game. Even if it was a 600 horse Tahoe.
PS: Nice lookin cars.
The Firebird is stock? Which of your two is faster from 50-100 mph or somewhere in that ballpark?
I imagine it’d probably take a fairly big chunk of added power and money for the LS1 to beat a 600 horsepower vehicle at that game. Even if it was a 600 horse Tahoe.
PS: Nice lookin cars.
Thanks! Mine is the regular 345 Hemi with the 372 HP. Very equal in all ranges of speed, stock vs stock. You are right, and that is what I said originally, that BIG $$$ would be needed to keep up with a Hellcat. The goal to get equal with the 392 Hemi with it's 485 HP is achieved easier and more inexpensively.
Not to mention the fact that all LS1s actually make ~345-350hp stock; the 305-325hp ratings for various 4th gen F-bodies were just a ploy on GM's part to make the C5's rating seem more impressive.
Yep, magazine sponsored dyno testing exploded the GM-sponsored story that F-body horsepower was significantly down from the Corvette due to "restrictive exhaust manifolds." I remember being blown away by the rwhp difference between the the LT1 (I had one at the time) and the LS1 cars.
Yep, magazine sponsored dyno testing exploded the GM-sponsored story that F-body horsepower was significantly down from the Corvette due to "restrictive exhaust manifolds." I remember being blown away by the rwhp difference between the the LT1 (I had one at the time) and the LS1 cars.
I owned my LT1 1996 Formula for 9 years and really enjoyed the performance. However when I bought the LS1 T/A I was also shocked at the difference when I test drove it. I figured it was just because the T/A was new, and that 25 HP difference from 285 to 310. Wrong!!!
I owned my LT1 1996 Formula for 9 years and really enjoyed the performance. However when I bought the LS1 T/A I was also shocked at the difference when I test drove it. I figured it was just because the T/A was new, and that 25 HP difference from 285 to 310. Wrong!!! Bought new in Florida in July 1996
I had two different 94's - both A4 3.23 and loved the torqueyness of those motors. My cars were very similar in appearance to yours - one forest green and the other turquoise. But optispark issues got in the way of the fun.
When i first test drove my current 2000 Formula, the lack of low end response was noticeable (with original 2.73's) but man, that motor felt like a turbo kicked in about 4000rpm (in comparison to the LT1). I knew on that first drive that the car needed more gear and some tranny tuning, and once those were accomplished, there was no looking back.
01-24-2024, 07:48 AM
Project Kitty Killer WS6 
