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Old 02-19-2007, 10:46 AM
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One of my favorite all time Mustangs was early 90's foxbody's.....still one of the meanest soundest Mustangs I've heard yet
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:53 AM
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The Camaro has beating them year by year since the 60's excepth the 80's and even then I'm pretty sure the Iroc-Z with the 350 would give them a run.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:14 PM
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It's not big news if a N/A Fbody hits 11s or even 10s. But even if you don't like Mustangs, it's a good thing that they're there since it gives f-body owners an "enemy." I'd much rather be paired up with a Cobra at the track than a 350Z or something, win or lose. I'm a die-hard Yankees fan but I love seeing them play the Red Sox. Competition is fun.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:19 PM
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^ I'm with you, to me this rivalry is a friendly one, but some people are just a$$holes about it on both sides. Ford vs Chevy has been around forever, and I hope it still is, if both companys can get their stuff together financially.
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:39 PM
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The mustang in my opinion is slower, gets worse MPG and is really uncomfortable. The whole car just seems so small. The rear, no room for your legs and my head hits the ceiling. I'm 6ft also so not too tall.

The only thing that I envy on a mustang is the fact that the car has true duals!
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Originally Posted by The Black Mamba
Yeah, those terminators do PWN most GM products...
Not around here.
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton

2002 Cobra's where RHD and Australia only if memory serves.
...and as I recall, they are really 2001's.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Not around here.
I think the guy ment stock for stock.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by The Black Mamba
Yeah, those terminators do PWN most GM products...
True, however the ford has a power adder unlike the GM N/A engine....Put a SC or TC on a LS1 & Terminator is history
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
True, however the ford has a power adder unlike the GM N/A engine....Put a SC or TC on a LS1 & Terminator is history
Put a stroker crank and some heads on a 4.6 and the LS1 is history. Whats your point?
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Originally Posted by BLKWS.6
Put a stroker crank and some heads on a 4.6 and the LS1 is history. Whats your point?
You don't need the stroker for the 4.6 just a new pully & tune and they can hit over 500 hp.

That and the engine can handle 900hp without exploding the crank like the LS1.

For that you need to drop the compression on the LS1, then put a forged crank on it, and then run boost plus a tune.

Then it'll win because it has more cubes in the engine for the low end PLUS the boost.

Nothing wrong with that either because a Z28 was only something like $22.5 k while the Cobra was something over $33k.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKWS.6
Put a stroker crank and some heads on a 4.6 and the LS1 is history. Whats your point?
My point is N/A, the LS1 is superior IMO
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
One of my favorite all time Mustangs was early 90's foxbody's.....still one of the meanest soundest Mustangs I've heard yet

+1 for fox bodies
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
My point is N/A, the LS1 is superior IMO
Please just stop. The 03/04 Cobra vs LS1 debate has been beaten to death. The terminators are amazing machines with forged internals. The LS1 F-bodies are amazing machines in thier own rights but have a variety of weak links such as the 10 bolt, rods, springs, pistons, transmission (if A4), clutch (if M6), suspension, ect.

I hear getting a terminator to 500 rwhp is not that difficult. But for a LS1 you have to spend a fortune to get to 500 rwhp and then another fortune to upgrade everything that 500 rwhp is going to break. I wish we had forged internals from GM

I gotta give credit where credit is due. FORD did a great job on the 03/04 Cobras.
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I like the mustangs, Espically the fox body's, and the 01-04. Yeah there performance is not what it should be. but the cars still look amazing and the sound is off the chain. I love my camaro, but if I was to ever get rid of it, I would probibly buy a Mach1 or 03-04 cobra.

Ford + chevy= great cars. But you will allways find a lemon..

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does anyone else think the fox 5.0 looks like an escort? I have always thought this and have always hated the styling of those cars. Just my .02. It seems as if more Mustang owners are ******** than the fbody guys. Or maybe thats just in Mineesota.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
True, however the ford has a power adder unlike the GM N/A engine....Put a SC or TC on a LS1 & Terminator is history
Give the Cobra another litre and higher compression then it would be comparable. What dont you guys get the cobra has 8.5:1 Compression with 4.6 litres! If you would like to compare the two engines how about comparing the Ford GT block to a LS1 as its comparable in ci but the LS1 still has the advantage. So lets see 810rwhp out of a GT500 with a kb anyone have a stock displacement LS1 doing that?
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Originally Posted by 67maro
Give the Cobra another litre and higher compression then it would be comparable. What dont you guys get the cobra has 8.5:1 Compression with 4.6 litres! If you would like to compare the two engines how about comparing the Ford GT block to a LS1 as its comparable in ci but the LS1 still has the advantage. So lets see 810rwhp out of a GT500 with a kb anyone have a stock displacement LS1 doing that?
You're comparing a brand new supercharged engine to one that is naturally aspirated and came out over 10 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Russick

To sum it up, the only Mustang I really like anymore is the good ol' 5.0 Fox. The LS1 F-body had plenty of shortcomings, but is becoming the "new" 5.0 Fox...
Interesting...

The worst part of the Mustang is the fact that it has some douchebag owners (NOT all of them just a few)

But I know some GM/F-body guys that are jerks also, so it's in every group.

Both are completely differnt cars with +/- all around

I disagree with some though. I think this is pretty intriguing thread, and I'm interested to see where it goes.
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Originally Posted by 67maro
Give the Cobra another litre and higher compression then it would be comparable. What dont you guys get the cobra has 8.5:1 Compression with 4.6 litres! If you would like to compare the two engines how about comparing the Ford GT block to a LS1 as its comparable in ci but the LS1 still has the advantage. So lets see 810rwhp out of a GT500 with a kb anyone have a stock displacement LS1 doing that?
where are you getting 810RWHP from just a Kenne Bell? Stop making things up
5.4L GT500 motor is nothing special, blown LS1s make far more power with pretty much the same displacement, with the same boost. Those cars benefit from a forged bottom end (something GM has been too cheap to do since the 60s), which is why you can all-of-a-sudden stuff 20 lbs into it and make 800 RWHP without worrying about the high-quality Eagle forged rotating assembly kicking the bucket... Cobra owners suffer from Supra syndrome. They are obsessed with this "stock bottom end" crap as if it means dick.
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