Pulled over 2 times in 4 days, BY THE SAME COP!
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Originally Posted by jbuerke142
but if you're just cruising home, is it really necessary to do 20+ mph over the speed limit? probably not.
Again, even the state troopers around here rarely take the 55mph limit seriously, unless they just feel like writing a ticket. But each and every time I see a state cop on the expressway, he's doing WELL over 55, just going along with the group. If they really thought that 55 was the fastest "safe" speed that anyone could drive on that roadway, then they should be setting an example and NOT drive 70mph like the rest of us.
55mph speed limits are OUTDATED. Major highways, expressways, and tollways should all be 70-75mph at this point.
Driving 55mph is pointless, unless the traffic is heavy or the weather is bad. You will NEVER see me driving anything less than 70mph on an open expressway in good weather. If I get a ticket, I'll pay it, and then go right back to driving 70.
04-06-2007, 03:46 PM
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I've never gotten a ticket (except tint) and I go 5MPH over all the time. Sometimes I'll go 10 over on the highway (80MPH) but I think that is pushing it. Now if I get into a line of 8+ cars coming from IL, that's another story lol.
But yes you have to be careful in these cars, it takes a lot of self control. Last weekend I was on an open highway with nice paved road (huge luxury in MI lol) with no one around. I was kinda in a hurry but I stayed at 80MPH, but I wanted to open it up really bad. Good thing I didn't, about 20 miles into the trip there was an Emergency Vehicles turn around thing in the middle of some woods, and lo and behold two hidden state cops. As soon as I saw them my detector went off.
But yes you have to be careful in these cars, it takes a lot of self control. Last weekend I was on an open highway with nice paved road (huge luxury in MI lol) with no one around. I was kinda in a hurry but I stayed at 80MPH, but I wanted to open it up really bad. Good thing I didn't, about 20 miles into the trip there was an Emergency Vehicles turn around thing in the middle of some woods, and lo and behold two hidden state cops. As soon as I saw them my detector went off.
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Just get a traffic lawyer, pay your $300-400 bucks and watch them disappear. It's really no biggie, you and your lawyer will show up to court and see if the cop shows. If he doesn't, it's dismissed. If he does, the lawyers gets it rescheduled for another day/time. Eventually the cop will have something going on in his/her life and won't make the the court appearance. GL!
Originally Posted by LS1=Poverty
I just wanted to share my story.....
Last Thursday, I was driving home, and there is a steep hill right before my house, as i go down said hill, I speed up a tad...just a tad. well, i get to the bottom and start back up the next hill, and i see headlights, so just to be safe, I slow down. Apparently not enough, however. I see that as the car passes me, it is in fact a sheriff, and he is turning around. At this point, I am about a 1/2 mile from the house, so i decide to try to make it there and pull in before he catches up. so i punch it.
Well, I make it to my drive way, but its angled so that I have to almost stop to pull in, and as i turn my lights off, I see him FLYING over the hill with his blue lights blazing. He saw me. So Barney pulls into my driveway, and (abbreviated story) hands me a ticket for going 68 in a 45. Now, 2 weeks before, I got a ticket for 78 in a 55. So this is my second ticket. My car's ins is hard enough to pay for before the initial ticket, so when this sheriff hands me my second one, I was.....upset.....i grabbed my ticket, jumped out, slammed my door and went inside the house.....fast forward to this monday night. me and my uncle were eating at a mexican restaurant. We both pull out at the same time, he is in a Marauder. I have to turn off at the next light to go home, but he gets next to me and i drop it in second and hit it JUST FOR A SECOND. a few cars pass and i turn down my road. All of the sudden, I have blue lights flashing right on me. So i pull over. And who should walk up, but Barney himself!!! I was thinking, hey, long time no see! but he wasnt happy at all. He threatened to take me to jail and take my car right then and there. Although i didnt speed or do anything really illegal...He told me if he pulls me over again, he WILL take me in. My uncle called and apologized. I didnt tell the folks. Sucked. So now, I drive 5 under the speed limit. 
Last Thursday, I was driving home, and there is a steep hill right before my house, as i go down said hill, I speed up a tad...just a tad. well, i get to the bottom and start back up the next hill, and i see headlights, so just to be safe, I slow down. Apparently not enough, however. I see that as the car passes me, it is in fact a sheriff, and he is turning around. At this point, I am about a 1/2 mile from the house, so i decide to try to make it there and pull in before he catches up. so i punch it.
Well, I make it to my drive way, but its angled so that I have to almost stop to pull in, and as i turn my lights off, I see him FLYING over the hill with his blue lights blazing. He saw me. So Barney pulls into my driveway, and (abbreviated story) hands me a ticket for going 68 in a 45. Now, 2 weeks before, I got a ticket for 78 in a 55. So this is my second ticket. My car's ins is hard enough to pay for before the initial ticket, so when this sheriff hands me my second one, I was.....upset.....i grabbed my ticket, jumped out, slammed my door and went inside the house.....fast forward to this monday night. me and my uncle were eating at a mexican restaurant. We both pull out at the same time, he is in a Marauder. I have to turn off at the next light to go home, but he gets next to me and i drop it in second and hit it JUST FOR A SECOND. a few cars pass and i turn down my road. All of the sudden, I have blue lights flashing right on me. So i pull over. And who should walk up, but Barney himself!!! I was thinking, hey, long time no see! but he wasnt happy at all. He threatened to take me to jail and take my car right then and there. Although i didnt speed or do anything really illegal...He told me if he pulls me over again, he WILL take me in. My uncle called and apologized. I didnt tell the folks. Sucked. So now, I drive 5 under the speed limit.
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To the OP- sounds like "Barney" is looking for your car now. I'd personally consider getting a beater and leaving the TA off the street for a while until he moves on. I can see where the guy is coming from in terms of ticketing you and it's pretty clear he's looking for you on the streets now.
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**** happens.You had a bad week.When I was younger my friends and I had some times with tickets as well.Hell I've gotten 2 speeding tickets and 1 from redlight photo camera and then 1 more for illegal tag cover in the last 3 1/2 years and they were in Chevy workvans(they're easy prey).I was just going with the flow of traffic with the speeding ones.The camera ticket was in stop and go traffic and everybody was just a couple of feet everyone and I had a big box van in front of me and couldn't see if the light was red or not so I stayed with the car beside me.The last ticket is for a camera blocking tag cover because of the camera ticket and that one cost me a $35 fine which is way cheaper than the redlight ticket so the cover stays on.Definitely check into a lawyer,that'll help alot.As far as speeding,I don't what people say,we all do it.And if you really do the speed limit,move your in my way and causing a traffic jam.You just got unlucky.
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04-06-2007, 04:37 PM
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Yea I think some of you guys are being too hard on him, he was just crusing goin 15-18 over the limit, its not like he was street racing doing 120MPH+ were all young and need to learn, some of us like him and myself learn the hard way with tickets. A word of advise you should be gettin letters in the mail for lawyers, I would do that, for my first 2 tickets I got I went to court myself and basically got screwed, on my 3rd ticket I got a lawyer and he got it dropped to impropper equipment, costed me an addition 200 bux for the laywer in addition to the court costs but it was worth it not having my insurance go up 25-45 %.... GOOD LUCK AND STAY SAFE!!!!!!!!!!
04-06-2007, 04:50 PM
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Not trying to preach or anyting (see my last posts in this thread!) but I got this in the e-mail after sending that last post. I don't believe in chance, so I feel I'm supposed to post it. That's the only reason I'm doing so (again, see my last posts). Sorry about the blank spaces.
Read This Slowlyx
Jack took a long look at his speedometer before slowing down: 73in
a 55 zone. Fourth time in as many months. How could a guy get caught so
often?x
When his car had slowed to 10 miles an hour, Jack pulled over, but only
partially. Let the cop worry about the potential traffic hazard. Maybe
some other car will tweak his backside with a mirror. The cop was stepping
out of his car, the big pad in hand.x
Bob? Bob from Church? Jack sunk farther into his trench coat. This was
worse than the coming ticket. A cop catching a guy from his own church.
A guy who happened to be a little eager to get home after a long day at
the office. A guy he was about to play golf with tomorrow.x
Jumping out of the car, he approached a man he saw every Sunday, a man
he'd never seen in uniform.x
x
"Hi, Bob. Fancy meeting you like this."x
x
"Hello, Jack." No smile.x
"Guess you caught me red-handed in a rush to see my wife and kids."x
"Yeah, I guess." Bob seemed uncertain. Good.x
x
"I've seen some long days at the office lately. I'm afraid I bent
the rules a bit -just this once."x
Jack toed at a pebble on the pavement. "Diane said something about
roast beef and potatoes tonight. Know what I mean?" "I know what
you mean. I also know that you have a reputation in our precinct ."
Ouch. This was not going in the right direction Time to change tactics.x
"What'd you clock me at?"x
"Seventy. Would you sit back in your car
please?"x x
"Now wait a minute here, Bob. I checked as soon as saw you. I was
barely nudging 65." The lie seemed to come easier with every ticket.x
x
"Please, Jack, in the car"x
x
Flustered, Jack hunched himself through the still-open door. Slamming it
shut, he stared at the dashboard. He was in no rush to open the window.x
The minutes ticked by. Bob scribbled away on the pad.x
x
Why hadn't he asked for a driver's license?x
Whatever the reason, it would be a month of Sundays before Jack ever sat
near this cop again. A tap on the door jerked his head to the left. There
was Bob, a folded paper in hand Jack rolled down the window a mere two
inches, just enough room for Bob to pass him the slip.x
x
"Thanks." Jack could not quite keep the sneer out of his voice.x
x
Bob returned to his police car without a word. Jack watched his retreat
in the mirror. Jack unfolded the sheet of paper. How much was this one
going to cost?x
Wait a minute. What was this? Some kind of joke?x
Certainly not a ticket. Jack began to read:x
Dear Jack, Once upon a time I had a daughter. She was six when killed
by a car. You guessed it- a speeding driver. A fine and three months in
jail, and the man was free. Free to hug his daughters, all three of them.
I only had one, and I'm going to have to wait until Heaven before I can
ever hug her again.x
A thousand times I've tried to forgive that man. A thousand times I thought
I had. Maybe I did, but I need to do it again. Even now. Pray for me. And
be careful, Jack, my son is all I have left."x
"Bob"x
x
Jack turned around in time to see Bob's car pull away and head down the
road. Jack watched until it disappeared. A full 15 minutes later, he too,
pulled away and drove slowly home, praying for forgiveness and hugging
a surprised wife and kids when he arrived.x
Read This Slowlyx
Jack took a long look at his speedometer before slowing down: 73in
a 55 zone. Fourth time in as many months. How could a guy get caught so
often?x
When his car had slowed to 10 miles an hour, Jack pulled over, but only
partially. Let the cop worry about the potential traffic hazard. Maybe
some other car will tweak his backside with a mirror. The cop was stepping
out of his car, the big pad in hand.x
Bob? Bob from Church? Jack sunk farther into his trench coat. This was
worse than the coming ticket. A cop catching a guy from his own church.
A guy who happened to be a little eager to get home after a long day at
the office. A guy he was about to play golf with tomorrow.x
Jumping out of the car, he approached a man he saw every Sunday, a man
he'd never seen in uniform.x
x
"Hi, Bob. Fancy meeting you like this."x
x
"Hello, Jack." No smile.x
"Guess you caught me red-handed in a rush to see my wife and kids."x
"Yeah, I guess." Bob seemed uncertain. Good.x
x
"I've seen some long days at the office lately. I'm afraid I bent
the rules a bit -just this once."x
Jack toed at a pebble on the pavement. "Diane said something about
roast beef and potatoes tonight. Know what I mean?" "I know what
you mean. I also know that you have a reputation in our precinct ."
Ouch. This was not going in the right direction Time to change tactics.x
"What'd you clock me at?"x
"Seventy. Would you sit back in your car
please?"x x
"Now wait a minute here, Bob. I checked as soon as saw you. I was
barely nudging 65." The lie seemed to come easier with every ticket.x
x
"Please, Jack, in the car"x
x
Flustered, Jack hunched himself through the still-open door. Slamming it
shut, he stared at the dashboard. He was in no rush to open the window.x
The minutes ticked by. Bob scribbled away on the pad.x
x
Why hadn't he asked for a driver's license?x
Whatever the reason, it would be a month of Sundays before Jack ever sat
near this cop again. A tap on the door jerked his head to the left. There
was Bob, a folded paper in hand Jack rolled down the window a mere two
inches, just enough room for Bob to pass him the slip.x
x
"Thanks." Jack could not quite keep the sneer out of his voice.x
x
Bob returned to his police car without a word. Jack watched his retreat
in the mirror. Jack unfolded the sheet of paper. How much was this one
going to cost?x
Wait a minute. What was this? Some kind of joke?x
Certainly not a ticket. Jack began to read:x
Dear Jack, Once upon a time I had a daughter. She was six when killed
by a car. You guessed it- a speeding driver. A fine and three months in
jail, and the man was free. Free to hug his daughters, all three of them.
I only had one, and I'm going to have to wait until Heaven before I can
ever hug her again.x
A thousand times I've tried to forgive that man. A thousand times I thought
I had. Maybe I did, but I need to do it again. Even now. Pray for me. And
be careful, Jack, my son is all I have left."x
"Bob"x
x
Jack turned around in time to see Bob's car pull away and head down the
road. Jack watched until it disappeared. A full 15 minutes later, he too,
pulled away and drove slowly home, praying for forgiveness and hugging
a surprised wife and kids when he arrived.x
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Originally Posted by LS1=Poverty
I just wanted to share my story.....
Last Thursday, I was driving home, and there is a steep hill right before my house, as i go down said hill, I speed up a tad...just a tad. well, i get to the bottom and start back up the next hill, and i see headlights, so just to be safe, I slow down. Apparently not enough, however. I see that as the car passes me, it is in fact a sheriff, and he is turning around. At this point, I am about a 1/2 mile from the house, so i decide to try to make it there and pull in before he catches up. so i punch it. Well, I make it to my drive way, but its angled so that I have to almost stop to pull in, and as i turn my lights off, I see him FLYING over the hill with his blue lights blazing. He saw me. So Barney pulls into my driveway, and (abbreviated story) hands me a ticket for going 68 in a 45. Now, 2 weeks before, I got a ticket for 78 in a 55. So this is my second ticket. My car's ins is hard enough to pay for before the initial ticket, so when this sheriff hands me my second one, I was.....upset.....i grabbed my ticket, jumped out, slammed my door and went inside the house.....fast forward to this monday night. me and my uncle were eating at a mexican restaurant. We both pull out at the same time, he is in a Marauder. I have to turn off at the next light to go home, but he gets next to me and i drop it in second and hit it JUST FOR A SECOND. a few cars pass and i turn down my road. All of the sudden, I have blue lights flashing right on me. So i pull over. And who should walk up, but Barney himself!!! I was thinking, hey, long time no see! but he wasnt happy at all. He threatened to take me to jail and take my car right then and there. Although i didnt speed or do anything really illegal...He told me if he pulls me over again, he WILL take me in. My uncle called and apologized. I didnt tell the folks. Sucked. So now, I drive 5 under the speed limit.
Last Thursday, I was driving home, and there is a steep hill right before my house, as i go down said hill, I speed up a tad...just a tad. well, i get to the bottom and start back up the next hill, and i see headlights, so just to be safe, I slow down. Apparently not enough, however. I see that as the car passes me, it is in fact a sheriff, and he is turning around. At this point, I am about a 1/2 mile from the house, so i decide to try to make it there and pull in before he catches up. so i punch it.
Well, I make it to my drive way, but its angled so that I have to almost stop to pull in, and as i turn my lights off, I see him FLYING over the hill with his blue lights blazing. He saw me. So Barney pulls into my driveway, and (abbreviated story) hands me a ticket for going 68 in a 45. Now, 2 weeks before, I got a ticket for 78 in a 55. So this is my second ticket. My car's ins is hard enough to pay for before the initial ticket, so when this sheriff hands me my second one, I was.....upset.....i grabbed my ticket, jumped out, slammed my door and went inside the house.....fast forward to this monday night. me and my uncle were eating at a mexican restaurant. We both pull out at the same time, he is in a Marauder. I have to turn off at the next light to go home, but he gets next to me and i drop it in second and hit it JUST FOR A SECOND. a few cars pass and i turn down my road. All of the sudden, I have blue lights flashing right on me. So i pull over. And who should walk up, but Barney himself!!! I was thinking, hey, long time no see! but he wasnt happy at all. He threatened to take me to jail and take my car right then and there. Although i didnt speed or do anything really illegal...He told me if he pulls me over again, he WILL take me in. My uncle called and apologized. I didnt tell the folks. Sucked. So now, I drive 5 under the speed limit.
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The only way you're going to eliminate traffic fatalities is to reduce all speed limits to 10mph and not allow the OEMs to build cars that can drive faster than 10mph.
Speed doesn't kill, if you know what you're doing. A dumb, distracted driver going 55mph is far more dangerous than a smart, skilled driver doing 70mph.
Speed doesn't kill, if you know what you're doing. A dumb, distracted driver going 55mph is far more dangerous than a smart, skilled driver doing 70mph.
04-06-2007, 06:53 PM
#73
Originally Posted by Sharpe
Not trying to preach or anyting (see my last posts in this thread!) but I got this in the e-mail after sending that last post. I don't believe in chance, so I feel I'm supposed to post it. That's the only reason I'm doing so (again, see my last posts). Sorry about the blank spaces.
Read This Slowlyx
Jack took a long look at his speedometer before slowing down: 73in
a 55 zone. Fourth time in as many months. How could a guy get caught so
often?x
When his car had slowed to 10 miles an hour, Jack pulled over, but only
partially. Let the cop worry about the potential traffic hazard. Maybe
some other car will tweak his backside with a mirror. The cop was stepping
out of his car, the big pad in hand.x
Bob? Bob from Church? Jack sunk farther into his trench coat. This was
worse than the coming ticket. A cop catching a guy from his own church.
A guy who happened to be a little eager to get home after a long day at
the office. A guy he was about to play golf with tomorrow.x
Jumping out of the car, he approached a man he saw every Sunday, a man
he'd never seen in uniform.x
x
"Hi, Bob. Fancy meeting you like this."x
x
"Hello, Jack." No smile.x
"Guess you caught me red-handed in a rush to see my wife and kids."x
"Yeah, I guess." Bob seemed uncertain. Good.x
x
"I've seen some long days at the office lately. I'm afraid I bent
the rules a bit -just this once."x
Jack toed at a pebble on the pavement. "Diane said something about
roast beef and potatoes tonight. Know what I mean?" "I know what
you mean. I also know that you have a reputation in our precinct ."
Ouch. This was not going in the right direction Time to change tactics.x
"What'd you clock me at?"x
"Seventy. Would you sit back in your car
please?"x x
"Now wait a minute here, Bob. I checked as soon as saw you. I was
barely nudging 65." The lie seemed to come easier with every ticket.x
x
"Please, Jack, in the car"x
x
Flustered, Jack hunched himself through the still-open door. Slamming it
shut, he stared at the dashboard. He was in no rush to open the window.x
The minutes ticked by. Bob scribbled away on the pad.x
x
Why hadn't he asked for a driver's license?x
Whatever the reason, it would be a month of Sundays before Jack ever sat
near this cop again. A tap on the door jerked his head to the left. There
was Bob, a folded paper in hand Jack rolled down the window a mere two
inches, just enough room for Bob to pass him the slip.x
x
"Thanks." Jack could not quite keep the sneer out of his voice.x
x
Bob returned to his police car without a word. Jack watched his retreat
in the mirror. Jack unfolded the sheet of paper. How much was this one
going to cost?x
Wait a minute. What was this? Some kind of joke?x
Certainly not a ticket. Jack began to read:x
Dear Jack, Once upon a time I had a daughter. She was six when killed
by a car. You guessed it- a speeding driver. A fine and three months in
jail, and the man was free. Free to hug his daughters, all three of them.
I only had one, and I'm going to have to wait until Heaven before I can
ever hug her again.x
A thousand times I've tried to forgive that man. A thousand times I thought
I had. Maybe I did, but I need to do it again. Even now. Pray for me. And
be careful, Jack, my son is all I have left."x
"Bob"x
x
Jack turned around in time to see Bob's car pull away and head down the
road. Jack watched until it disappeared. A full 15 minutes later, he too,
pulled away and drove slowly home, praying for forgiveness and hugging
a surprised wife and kids when he arrived.x
Read This Slowlyx
Jack took a long look at his speedometer before slowing down: 73in
a 55 zone. Fourth time in as many months. How could a guy get caught so
often?x
When his car had slowed to 10 miles an hour, Jack pulled over, but only
partially. Let the cop worry about the potential traffic hazard. Maybe
some other car will tweak his backside with a mirror. The cop was stepping
out of his car, the big pad in hand.x
Bob? Bob from Church? Jack sunk farther into his trench coat. This was
worse than the coming ticket. A cop catching a guy from his own church.
A guy who happened to be a little eager to get home after a long day at
the office. A guy he was about to play golf with tomorrow.x
Jumping out of the car, he approached a man he saw every Sunday, a man
he'd never seen in uniform.x
x
"Hi, Bob. Fancy meeting you like this."x
x
"Hello, Jack." No smile.x
"Guess you caught me red-handed in a rush to see my wife and kids."x
"Yeah, I guess." Bob seemed uncertain. Good.x
x
"I've seen some long days at the office lately. I'm afraid I bent
the rules a bit -just this once."x
Jack toed at a pebble on the pavement. "Diane said something about
roast beef and potatoes tonight. Know what I mean?" "I know what
you mean. I also know that you have a reputation in our precinct ."
Ouch. This was not going in the right direction Time to change tactics.x
"What'd you clock me at?"x
"Seventy. Would you sit back in your car
please?"x x
"Now wait a minute here, Bob. I checked as soon as saw you. I was
barely nudging 65." The lie seemed to come easier with every ticket.x
x
"Please, Jack, in the car"x
x
Flustered, Jack hunched himself through the still-open door. Slamming it
shut, he stared at the dashboard. He was in no rush to open the window.x
The minutes ticked by. Bob scribbled away on the pad.x
x
Why hadn't he asked for a driver's license?x
Whatever the reason, it would be a month of Sundays before Jack ever sat
near this cop again. A tap on the door jerked his head to the left. There
was Bob, a folded paper in hand Jack rolled down the window a mere two
inches, just enough room for Bob to pass him the slip.x
x
"Thanks." Jack could not quite keep the sneer out of his voice.x
x
Bob returned to his police car without a word. Jack watched his retreat
in the mirror. Jack unfolded the sheet of paper. How much was this one
going to cost?x
Wait a minute. What was this? Some kind of joke?x
Certainly not a ticket. Jack began to read:x
Dear Jack, Once upon a time I had a daughter. She was six when killed
by a car. You guessed it- a speeding driver. A fine and three months in
jail, and the man was free. Free to hug his daughters, all three of them.
I only had one, and I'm going to have to wait until Heaven before I can
ever hug her again.x
A thousand times I've tried to forgive that man. A thousand times I thought
I had. Maybe I did, but I need to do it again. Even now. Pray for me. And
be careful, Jack, my son is all I have left."x
"Bob"x
x
Jack turned around in time to see Bob's car pull away and head down the
road. Jack watched until it disappeared. A full 15 minutes later, he too,
pulled away and drove slowly home, praying for forgiveness and hugging
a surprised wife and kids when he arrived.x
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you all are a bunch of ******, woo woo man outrun that pig man and even when he did catch you you should have slammed him in his face and then threw him into your car.... lol j/k everyone...shame on you
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Originally Posted by jbuerke142
wow... 68 in a 45 and 78 in a 55... you're on the fast track to no license. slow down, and don't try to run. that's a good way to turn a ~$70 speeding ticket into a felony, and that's just stupid.
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Originally Posted by LS1=Poverty
I wasnt going 150, man. I was just cruising the one time, and the next, I was just going down a steep hill. doesnt take much to go from 50 to ~78 in that instance. I use my cruise control ALWAYS now.
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Originally Posted by DMONEY06
people drive like 90 on the autobahn and theres not nearly as many crashes out there than there are in the states
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I got my car when I was 15 and just had a permit so I learned to drive in it. In the 5+ years I've had it, I've gotten 2 speeding tickets and 3 warnings. I think that's pretty good! You just have to realize you can't drive how you want unless no one is around. A Valentine1 helps ALOT but my 2 tickets were from Instant On so no help there. Two of my warning were for accelerating too fast, damn longtubes, I love them so much but if cops couldn't hear the car, I doubt they would notice!
-chris
-chris