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Old 06-09-2007, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SchultzLT1
and thats basically what the cobra is....a supercharged GT with a 6-speed...
its a supercharged mach 1 with a bit of head work
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Originally Posted by SchultzLT1
....and ok how do you know?
Because I've throttled many blown & turbo LS1 fbodies.

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and yes i generalized on the supercharged GT = Cobra but....its not THAT far off....
Are you trying to tell me that a 2V GT motor is basically the same as a 4V '03 Cobra motor? I hope you're kidding. There aren't too many
2V GT motors that can hold 1,000rwhp. Actually, they tend to let go
at 400rwhp.

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I could say an SS is just a Z28 with a hood and exhaust but yeah there is the spoiler, shifter, hood, exhaust, suspension
You're be right for the most part. However, calling a Cobra a "GT with
a superchager and a 6 speed" couldn't be more incorrect.

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...you get the idea.
Oh, trust me...I get the idea. I don't believe you do though.

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.didnt mean to upset anyone
Upset has nothing to do with it. Spreading incorrect information
isn't going to benefit anyone.

Originally Posted by razorclaw99
its a supercharged mach 1 with a bit of head work
Closer...but still wrong. Next? Someone who is out of the 12's please?
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Old 06-09-2007, 05:18 PM
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so why dont u explain it cuz u obviously know so much about cobras
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I say cobra for sure. I love LOVE my TA but if I could afford an 03/04 I def. would buy one in a heart beat. IMHO I would look for a used viper. I've always been a fan of those...
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Originally Posted by razorclaw99
so why dont u explain it cuz u obviously know so much about cobras
Yep...I do considering that I have one. I've also had a LS1 so I have
a pretty good understanding of them too.

You guys are the ones telling us about how Cobras are basically
Mach 1's and GT's. I'm waiting for someone with a clue to chime
in and post at least one thing that's accurate.

Again, I suspect that the 1st person that has run faster than 12's
will know.
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unit....no **** dude you have 620rwhp. of course you stomp on LS1's and LS6's and LS2's and LS7's.....but I am still yet to see a Cobra STOCK beat a blown LS1

I've run an 11.8, but it wasnt my car
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Originally Posted by SchultzLT1
I almost gave up yesterday and I was at a Ford dealership test driving the new GT's.... I won't lie, they were terribly slow for being a brand spankin new car. Doesn't hold a match to an LS1.

Then I test drove an 04 cobra.....nice....

But again, I wasnt impressed for it having 390 HP. If you supercharge an LS1...a cobra has no chance...and thats basically what the cobra is....a supercharged GT with a 6-speed...
If I were you and you have the money for a cobra i would buy an SS and put a procharger on it or somethin

good luck tho, their both mean cars
Well im going to put this as nice and with as much info as i can. I didnt know that gt's come with forged short blocks from the factory? If you seriously think a cobra is just a gt with a six speed and a supercharger, do some research on them and find out everything involved with them from the factory. And its not even oem parts that are the big deal such as a forged short block, its the potential that they have with just a few mods.

Just an example here for ya

http://turbochargedpower.com/Palugi%2003%20Cobra.htm

Even with that said i have looked at 03-04 cobras over and over again and with the price of them right now i would never buy one for 27,000 and upper amounts, i would much rather build something myself for 15,000. But not a lot of people have time to do stuff like that on there own. I would buy an ls1 before i bought an 03 cobra simply for the reason that i would gladly take the extra 15000 and put it into the ls1 than spend it on a stock or close to stock cobra for the same price. Just depends what you are looking for and if you like to do the work yourself, but back on point here cobra's are very special from the factory and have major potential.

To the op..... If you want a cobra go for it... personally if i was looking for a dd type car to buy in the upper 20 grand range..... I would be looking at a used vette which probly have the most potential out of anything with the weight advantage. All depends on what you want. Go drive an ls1 and a vette see what you like the best, you may find the cobra to be much better or you may not.......
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im not a ford guy at all but u can make the 03-04 cobras fast as hell with a relatively tight budget. im not a ford guy at ALL BUT id have a 03 or 04 cobra... if its a 02 WS-6 its up to you but in my opinion the t/a's look better than the cobras but the cobras are faster stock do what u want...

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Old 06-09-2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
Pulley, exhaust, intake, tune = 460rwhp and 11.20 - 11.50's on a drag
radial with a good driver.

Get whatever car you like best. Is that what it's all about? Both cars
will perform when you throw money at them.



"1meantransam" must get tired from having to put his foot in his mouth all the time.
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stainless - thanks for explaining that a little but... i do know a lot of work goes into a cobra but i don't know as much to what extent. and i do know the potential of modding on a cobra and how easily they can make 500+ hp....

but like i said before...I also know the power and potential of a blown LS1 which is like $20000 if you get a nice camaro and a procharger....

to buy a bone stock NICE cobra like the one i was lookin at yesterday...it would be $26-28k
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Let me put it like this...I have a friend that runs mid 8's in the mid 160's on
a stock '03 Cobra short bock.
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chuckles... unit you obviously are having a bad day I wouldnt expect such a condescending attitude from a moderator.

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Originally Posted by SchultzLT1
stainless - thanks for explaining that a little but... i do know a lot of work goes into a cobra but i don't know as much to what extent. and i do know the potential of modding on a cobra and how easily they can make 500+ hp....

but like i said before...I also know the power and potential of a blown LS1 which is like $20000 if you get a nice camaro and a procharger....

to buy a bone stock NICE cobra like the one i was lookin at yesterday...it would be $26-28k
Wow, all of these people trying to get that much for Cobras are idiots. They could be had for $29k out the door brand new in '04 with all of the discounts and rebates. I watch the same cars stay up for sale for MONTHS at those prices. Cobra owners need to understand that their car is NOT the next Supra...Mustangs depreciate just like F-bodies and it's only a matter of time before the Cobras take a big hit in value. They just haven't had time to depreciate. Keep in mind that an '02 Trans Am that's stock with low mileage will cost you $17k, not $8k like some of you act like they will.

When the Cobra prices drop, what will you LS1 guys have to bitch about?

Like I've said before, buy a 5.0 Mustang if you want to go fast for cheap...
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Originally Posted by SchultzLT1
stainless - thanks for explaining that a little but... i do know a lot of work goes into a cobra but i don't know as much to what extent. and i do know the potential of modding on a cobra and how easily they can make 500+ hp....

but like i said before...I also know the power and potential of a blown LS1 which is like $20000 if you get a nice camaro and a procharger....

to buy a bone stock NICE cobra like the one i was lookin at yesterday...it would be $26-28k

No problem bro, ya i agree i mean i love the look of the cobra's and the sound with a kb an off road x or h and an m55 catback is just sex (dont forget this is coming from an all chevy guy lol) but at the end of the day i agree 100 percent id grab an ls1 or a vette and build a beast if i was looking to do up a newer car....... To be honest i would probly pull this exact combo or close to it that this guy has http://procharger.com/gallery/showte...ket=2&idx=1209

To many if its not on pump gas its no fun on the street lol

Just be aware them cobras can be straight sick with a good driver
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Wha...wha...what????

Put the pipe down please sir.
I thought I read it wrong also---GTO'S..MEAN... [must have meant 64-72 GTO'S]
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KBB prices just to give an idea on prices from zip 48117

Excellent
$26,500
Mileage: 49,000
Engine: V8 4.6L Supercharged
Transmission: 6 Speed Manual
Drivetrain: RWD


TransAm WS6
Excellent $18,865
Mileage: 68,000
Engine: V8 5.7 Liter
Transmission: 6 Speed Manual
Drivetrain: RWD
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Old 06-09-2007, 05:39 PM
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I'm 100% Chevy also but i would have to admit...the sound of a GT or a Cobra comin down the street...you know its a Mustang, they sound awesome.

for a 4.6L that is
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just wondering, but why are people buy F-bodies and Cobras, Vettes as daily drivers???

i mean theres nothing wrong with it, i just dont like putting all those miles on badass cars..

buy a civic and garage the cobra or ta!
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Originally Posted by 560SL
Wow, all of these people trying to get that much for Cobras are idiots. They could be had for $29k out the door brand new in '04 with all of the discounts and rebates. I watch the same cars stay up for sale for MONTHS at those prices. Cobra owners need to understand that their car is NOT the next Supra...Mustangs depreciate just like F-bodies and it's only a matter of time before the Cobras take a big hit in value. They just haven't had time to depreciate. Keep in mind that an '02 Trans Am that's stock with low mileage will cost you $17k, not $8k like some of you act like they will.

When the Cobra prices drop, what will you LS1 guys have to bitch about?

Like I've said before, buy a 5.0 Mustang if you want to go fast for cheap...
There not going to drop... The near stock one's over the next couple years will probly go up a lot more also if the owner keeps the miles semi low....... Unless ford brings something with more factory potential in the next couple years at near the same price which will not happen most likely.
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An SS, Firehawk, Cobra, and Corvette (especially Z06) should not be DD's....however, a T/A, WS6, Z28, or GT, I have nothing against them being beat to **** on the streets....they will never accrue value like the first group named. Those are the collectible garage cars.

but i'm out to dinner, peace guys
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