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Old 08-27-2007 | 10:12 AM
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pretty much this is the case ill have about $36k to invest in my car im either going to go turbo or with the 3.4 whipple charger. my bro has a cobra with a 5.1 motor build with blower cams and ported and polished heads with the 3.4 and is supposed to be the fastest (for now) street 3.4 whipple in the country done by psr of arizona. i too want to be completely street legal so yah. lately i've been disappointed in the turbos i thought once were wonderful, but now having doubts. im not wanting to wait for the turbo to spool but lookin for something like the whipple where i get torque instantly obviously ill do the neccessary supporting mods ( built motor, heads, blower cams, and also a 383 stroker, together with the right fuel system also including complete drag suspension) so any ideas would help me out alot
Old 08-27-2007 | 10:40 AM
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You have $36k to put into a car? Damn how awesome is that??? But I would say do the whipple. BTW what kind of car are we talkin about... Cobra, vette?
Old 08-27-2007 | 11:16 AM
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neither do a NA 427 nitrous sniffing beast
Old 08-27-2007 | 11:26 AM
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yeah man, go to texas-speed and build a dream machine.

They have a decently priced 427 cid engine for $5,999.00 i believe.

from there, just build that beast out. If you can whipple the 427.. jesus titty ******* christ....
Old 08-27-2007 | 11:33 AM
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twin turbo 4xx ci...there shouldn't be much lag...especially since you would be in the 500 rwtq range N/A.....just sayin
Old 08-27-2007 | 12:39 PM
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Turbo that bad boy, a 1000whp turbo is extremely streetable if set up right because of a magical thing called a boost controller. Turn the boost up when you wanna kick *** and leave it down when you want gas mileage/driveability. The fastest street cars are all turbo'd or maybe huge cubes with alot of nitrous but then you dont get the cool sounds a turbo makes.
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Didn't think Whipples were available for the F-body? Or they do an adapter like the Magnuson?

I would go turbo. I'm no turbo guru but from what I have been reading you only get lag when the turbo is inappropriatly sized or is just a pos.

I know of a guy with a third gen TA with a TT setup that runs in the 9's and he bitches it doesn't run right. Plenty fast for me! DD also with full interior.
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i know a shop psr of arizona that will make everything custom for me (3.4 whipple)

i just mean like a 1000hp turbo car and a 1000 hp whipple car the whipple will be faster due to instant torque and boost
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I think you mean a Whipple 3.3, I don't think they make a 3.4 unit.

Either way, none of us can help you. It's your choice. Either setup will have the potential to overload even the best built motors, so it is just what you are looking for.

As for the last sentence, that isn't exactly right. The lower rpm torque that the Whipple will offer won't make a difference in which ones faster, that's what gears are for. And with a twin turbo V8, your lag/spool time won't be that bad at all. All else being equal, a 1000hp V8 is a 1000hp V8, and neither will be any faster than the other.
Old 08-27-2007 | 01:08 PM
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ok thats true and yah they did last month just recently come out with a 3.4 whipple only 10 people in the country has one so yah its a bad *** set up though you could push around 28 lbs of boost
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the shop will have a hell of a time getting the whipple to fit.
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Can the whipple work efficiently on a 383 to make 1000 rwhp? I would say if your looking for 1000 rwhp then go big cubes (say 427 lsx block) and the best forged internals available. Toss on a large single turbo (T88+) and you will reach your goal. As for your concern about lag, if your looking for 1000 rwhp and want to drive this on the street i wouldnt worry about torque down low as your going to have a hell of a time hooking it up on a street tire, plus the 427 will have gobs of torque down low regardless.
Old 08-27-2007 | 02:28 PM
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with that big of a block i would want a s speed but i still want to go with a g force t-56 transsmision
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I can see your already leaning towards the whipple, so heres the push to get you there
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Originally Posted by night ghost
no actually these guys are great. they are doing there own first but ill be the second i think with it on
i don't care how much custumization itmight take

what i meant was they are going to have to hack at the cowl to get it to fit...or pull some magic.
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The only option for a tranny is a T-56, screw a 5-speed. I wouldnt like my car that much if it wasnt for the T-56, gotta love doing 100mph at 2,000 rpm.
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naw i mean to write a 6 speed my bad i want the same tranny as my bro which is rated at 1000 lbs of torque its called the g force transmission
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Originally Posted by night ghost
ok thats true and yah they did last month just recently come out with a 3.4 whipple only 10 people in the country has one so yah its a bad *** set up though you could push around 28 lbs of boost
Their website only offers a 2.3, 3.3, or 5.0 blower, not any mention of a 3.4. I also keep pretty close tabs on these as I am going to be ordering one soon, and haven't heard anything about it. Plus, there's no reason to design an entirely new blower to increase displacement by a tenth of a liter. So I think you either mean a 3.3, or a different brand.

http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1162
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Originally Posted by night ghost
ill probably have a different hood so that isn't a problem you see
In order to install a positive displacement blower (such as roots-type, screw-type whipple/KB, magna...) you must CUT the cowl-NOT the hood. The engine sits underneath the Cowl for weight distribution, and there is not enough room for a "sit on top" blower without extensive mods.

And this 3.4 whipple is enormous. Even on our 03' Cobra's it wont fit under the stock hood without hacking them up. I dont see it fitting on an LS car without making it look stupid.

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Old 08-27-2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nrmustang
I dont see it fitting on an LS car without making it look stupid.
I dont see it being possible to make a Whipple look stupid. They look f*cking awesome on Geo Metros.


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