Test Drove a Modded GTO ( not impressed )
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For the hell of it i stopped by a local Dealership and looked at an 04 GTO in the lot. It looked really good. It had an 05 hood and some nice wheels. I got in it and the keys were in it. So I started it up and I was shocked when i noticed a cam lope. I was pretty excited so i popped the hood. Turns out these were some of the mods.
-Fast 90/90
-Hotcam
-Ls6 heads
-SLP Longtubes
-3000 Stall
-and an unknown shot of nitrous (empty bottle)
This car was very well done and only had 8,000 miles on it. Turns out it was a lease car and the previous owner did all the work on it in three years then had to give it back!....DUMB Guy. Traded it in for a Malibu Max haha..But anyways back to the story.
I took it out on the on ramp and gave it hell it pulled pretty good but i was expecting more
Maybe it was just that i'm used to the six speed but it felt like to me that my camaro could have kept up if not beatin this GTO. Do they really wiegh that much or is it just the auto thats misleading? But anyways it was a really nice car and the GTO's are very well put together. Just thought i'd share my story. Not to often do you find a modded up LS1 at a dealer.
-Fast 90/90
-Hotcam
-Ls6 heads
-SLP Longtubes
-3000 Stall
-and an unknown shot of nitrous (empty bottle)
This car was very well done and only had 8,000 miles on it. Turns out it was a lease car and the previous owner did all the work on it in three years then had to give it back!....DUMB Guy. Traded it in for a Malibu Max haha..But anyways back to the story.
I took it out on the on ramp and gave it hell it pulled pretty good but i was expecting more
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Well, that's probably the most mild heads/cam setup you can get. Honestly, the hotcam and LS6 heads probably barely made up the weight difference between an f-body and a GTO. That package would give you about as much power as an LS2 GTO. So basically, you just drove an LS2 GTO with headers and a 3000 stall. Really, that's not much faster than a full intake/exhaust f-body. Who even knows if the GTO was tuned.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
Well, that's probably the most mild heads/cam setup you can get. Honestly, the hotcam and LS6 heads probably barely made up the weight difference between an f-body and a GTO. That package would give you about as much power as an LS2 GTO. So basically, you just drove an LS2 GTO with headers and a 3000 stall. Really, that's not much faster than a full intake/exhaust f-body. Who even knows if the GTO was tuned.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
Well, that's probably the most mild heads/cam setup you can get. Honestly, the hotcam and LS6 heads probably barely made up the weight difference between an f-body and a GTO. That package would give you about as much power as an LS2 GTO. So basically, you just drove an LS2 GTO with headers and a 3000 stall. Really, that's not much faster than a full intake/exhaust f-body. Who even knows if the GTO was tuned.
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Originally Posted by Camaro Z
Yeah good point, I'm pretty sure it was tuned it idled at about 1100 rpm and ran smooth. But yeah i just wasn't that impressed and wouldn't take it over my camaro. The fun factor just wasn't there. I'm sure the nitrous would have been pretty fun though ![Nod](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_nod.gif)
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
I've heard guys speak of running the hotcam without a tune and it running just fine on the stock tune. I wouldn't be surprised if the engine wasn't tuned at all...but just because it runs okay doesn't mean there aren't gobs of power on the table, know what I mean? My car's running fine after my header install but I can tell there's a lot of power to be squeezed out of it with a tune and my internals are all stock.
Yup.
My car is running with no tune right now and that is with new internals, cams, and a blower. Still ildes just fine and runs great. However you can tell there is tons of untapped power at the moment.
Next month (if all goes right) It will be tuned. Till then it runs just fine. No idle issues, no check engine lights, no tapping or odd noises.
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An auto trans LS1 car (including GTO) will NOT idle well with a hotcam and no tuning. M6 idle speed is higher, and there is no "in gear" idle, so they are much easier to live with on a stock tune with a cam.
1100rpm idle would not be stock for an A4 GTO.
1100rpm idle would not be stock for an A4 GTO.
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I've found that the autos tend to be a little misleading as well. A friend of mine on here runs his 6 speed at 13.3 and I'm runnin 13.4's and his feels night and day faster.
People get in my car and ask me "What's wrong with it?" ...It feels that slow.
People get in my car and ask me "What's wrong with it?" ...It feels that slow.
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Originally Posted by stevegrizzle
^ I hope you are staying out of WOT, for the motor's sake.
I never really even drive the car. I take it to work 2 times a week and thats about it (work in wesley Chapel). Other than that I take it out to the gym on Sundays and to go and wash it.
It very rarely ever see's WOT or even half for that matter.
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Originally Posted by night ghost
i was not impressed when i test drove a ls2 gto. i was going to buy the car but decided to go with the ta. don't think that gtos are worth the money
my 05 felt sluggish when i first bought it. honestly it felt like ****. it was almost embarrassing. but a few miles and a tune really woke it up. ls2 GTOs pull pretty good in mid range RPMs for what they are i think.
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Originally Posted by Nate's4.6
I never really even drive the car. I take it to work 2 times a week and thats about it (work in wesley Chapel). Other than that I take it out to the gym on Sundays and to go and wash it.
It very rarely ever see's WOT or even half for that matter.
It very rarely ever see's WOT or even half for that matter.
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Originally Posted by Camaro Z
For the hell of it i stopped by a local Dealership and looked at an 04 GTO in the lot. It looked really good. It had an 05 hood and some nice wheels. I got in it and the keys were in it. So I started it up and I was shocked when i noticed a cam lope. I was pretty excited so i popped the hood. Turns out these were some of the mods.
-Fast 90/90
-Hotcam
-Ls6 heads
-SLP Longtubes
-3000 Stall
-and an unknown shot of nitrous (empty bottle)
This car was very well done and only had 8,000 miles on it. Turns out it was a lease car and the previous owner did all the work on it in three years then had to give it back!....DUMB Guy. Traded it in for a Malibu Max haha..But anyways back to the story.
I took it out on the on ramp and gave it hell it pulled pretty good but i was expecting more
Maybe it was just that i'm used to the six speed but it felt like to me that my camaro could have kept up if not beatin this GTO. Do they really wiegh that much or is it just the auto thats misleading? But anyways it was a really nice car and the GTO's are very well put together. Just thought i'd share my story. Not to often do you find a modded up LS1 at a dealer.
-Fast 90/90
-Hotcam
-Ls6 heads
-SLP Longtubes
-3000 Stall
-and an unknown shot of nitrous (empty bottle)
This car was very well done and only had 8,000 miles on it. Turns out it was a lease car and the previous owner did all the work on it in three years then had to give it back!....DUMB Guy. Traded it in for a Malibu Max haha..But anyways back to the story.
I took it out on the on ramp and gave it hell it pulled pretty good but i was expecting more
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
my 05 felt sluggish when i first bought it. honestly it felt like ****. it was almost embarrassing. but a few miles and a tune really woke it up. ls2 GTOs pull pretty good in mid range RPMs for what they are i think.