switched back to paper
#41
I've run K&N filters in almost every vehicle I've had for the last 20 years. Never had a problem, never lost an engine. It's just a personal preference on whether you like paper or oil/cotton. K&N costs less in the long run if your cars sucks in that much dust. But if you live in that dusty of an area, you're going to need to clean or replace the filter a lot more often no matter which you choose.
#42
so sounds like the consensus on this site is to switch back to paper. i have a k&n always came with the car, i am thinking of switching to paper because of your advise. is fram a good filter to go with there is always plenty of them at autozone. how often do you guys change yours?
#45
Originally Posted by RPM WS6
K&N makes no measureable difference on LS1 F-bodies. Any change less than 3rwhp is within the margin of error. You could just as easily pick up 2rwhp switching back to a paper filter on back to back dynos as well. It's just not enough of a change to prove a solid power gain for either filter.
But one thing is for sure. Oil tests don't lie either, and results will always come back with lower silicon (dirt) content when using paper rather than oil/cotton filters. Even if the K&N is good for a 1-2rwhp gain, I'd rather give up the power for the better filtration of the paper filter.
But one thing is for sure. Oil tests don't lie either, and results will always come back with lower silicon (dirt) content when using paper rather than oil/cotton filters. Even if the K&N is good for a 1-2rwhp gain, I'd rather give up the power for the better filtration of the paper filter.
#47
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
I gathered my info through Patman, many years ago. His oil testing results and info was enough to convince me to ditch the K&N. He's been an oil & oil testing expert on this site for a long, long time.
Last edited by RPM WS6; 12-29-2007 at 04:55 AM.
#49
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
So add that to the fact that since the power gains aren't enough to be felt (or even seen on the dyno or track with any sort of consistancy), and that any measureable gain would be marginal at best, plus the mess of cleaning the damn thing (always hated that) with the possibility of accidently over-oiling and fouling the MAF, it just seems easier & better to stick with paper, IMO.
#50
Yeah, I was thinking about doing it last year along those lines, but I believed the kn hype about it filtering better than paper, but I trust oil analysis over a marketing statement. I think I'll buy a paper one next time to the store. Maybe I can sell my kn on ebay...
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
#52
I use a Holley Power Shot. My MAF gets zero oil on it. I like it because it does flow better with a sealed FTRA. I agree with you guys out in the desert, paper is probably better for you.
#54
to anyone who is digsgusted about how dirty your airfilter is.. CLEAN ITT!
If you have any kind of Ram air setup, i would hope you know that it will get dirty a helluva lot faster than if you didnt have it, no matter what filter it is.. If you're too lazy to clean your filter, go back to paper. Mine came with the K&N when i bought the car, I have my own ram air setup on it, and i wash my filter once a year if that. usuallly i just tap the filter on something to get any crap out and thats all i need. as far as oiling goes, i spray a light coating on it, and thats all she friggin wrote. no MAF problems or any problem whatsoever. hell, it even fits in my airbox! whattaya know! My bike came with a K&N filter as well, and i have no problems with that either
If you have any kind of Ram air setup, i would hope you know that it will get dirty a helluva lot faster than if you didnt have it, no matter what filter it is.. If you're too lazy to clean your filter, go back to paper. Mine came with the K&N when i bought the car, I have my own ram air setup on it, and i wash my filter once a year if that. usuallly i just tap the filter on something to get any crap out and thats all i need. as far as oiling goes, i spray a light coating on it, and thats all she friggin wrote. no MAF problems or any problem whatsoever. hell, it even fits in my airbox! whattaya know! My bike came with a K&N filter as well, and i have no problems with that either
#55
Is your "e" button broke?
#56
I was happy with my amsoil 2 stage foam air filter, just cant' afford the 50 some bucks to buy another, i didn't want to reclean myself just seems like id put too much oil. When i had my oiled air filter from amsoil, i got to check the maf for oil and that was never the case, i did feel better throttle response so that was a plus.
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#58
Ive had a few cars with K&N's. Never had any problems. Now the Gains are debatable on a N/A car but on a boosted car you really cant do any better than a open element K&N like filter.
#60
i have the holley power shot also and live in the desert very happy with the holley . had a k&n on an old car of mine here and had to clean it every two weeks gay