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Old 09-30-2008, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DeepV
When i was shopping for my radar i thought the same thing... but then i got more information and came to realize that that review, and anything from radar roy, is actually not very reliable... all i have to say look at the top of the page and click on the link that says "online store". These people are connected with that radar roy character who just wants to sell more crap.


I had an rx65, i returned it and went with the v1. When it comes to detection, v1 has been and probably always will be king. I love my bogey counter, and I love my arrows, it makes a difference when it comes to knowing whats up.

for test always and i mean always look at GOL test results "Guys of Lidar"
Old 09-30-2008, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6
I bet you I could clock you no problem. Passive jammers simply don't work. There are no active radar jammers sold in the US due to FCC restrictions. Laser can be jammed and there are devices out there that do work for jamming laser and detecting radar. But I have tested many many devices at various schools I have been too and none work for jamming radar. There are plenty of tests posted on the internet about the BS of passive jamming..
LI is the best one and suppostly it works really well although I dont have one since its kind of hard to put a jammer on a ta without modding the front bumper
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Originally Posted by bobbyd
for test always and i mean always look at GOL test results "Guys of Lidar"
They also happen to be affliated with radar roy, guess who supplies the units. Not attacking you, just posting what i find to be true to the best of my knowledge.

I'm just careful, what can i say, i don't take everyones word as gold right away.
Old 09-30-2008, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DeepV
They also happen to be affliated with radar roy, guess who supplies the units. Not attacking you, just posting what i find to be true to the best of my knowledge.

I'm just careful, what can i say, i don't take everyones word as gold right away.
hmmm didnt know that.

but dont they get real people to go in there take their units and then they test them all out that way?
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Originally Posted by bobbyd
LI is the best one and suppostly it works really well although I dont have one since its kind of hard to put a jammer on a ta without modding the front bumper
There are laser jammers that do work and don't violate FCC rules, I recently found couple of passive radar jammes out there.. But those don't work for a crap, this is the only active radar jammer that I can find Scorpion Ultimate radar jammer. But it also has trouble on the new radar bands. K and KA were able to be jammed but the new digital bandwidths are much harder and none of the new jammers are effective in some cases they cause the radar to display a higher speed.........Read all you want to know here:http://www.radardetector.net/forums/

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I still cant believe that they have nothing better to do then write someone for 5 over. Thats lame and pothetic. I would take the class if it means getting the points taken off. Oh and dont waste your money on a laser jammer.If i radar you and it comes back all messed up when i know it works because your using a jammer, then your looking at a big fine, b.c i WILL find where you put it.
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IIRC Laser jammers are still legal in the US with the exception that they themselves dont send out any information or interfere with FCC radio waves. Correct?

Cali, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Washington DC, are the only states that outlaw laser jammers.
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Originally Posted by bballr4567
IIRC Laser jammers are still legal in the US with the exception that they themselves dont send out any information or interfere with FCC radio waves. Correct?

Cali, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Washington DC, are the only states that outlaw laser jammers.
Yes laser jammers are not regulated by the FCC because it is a light wave not a radio signal. They do send out a signal... Individual states may have laws the make them illegal but they are not federal. Laser jammers do work and are available on the open market..
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6
Yes laser jammers are not regulated by the FCC because it is a light wave not a radio signal. They do send out a signal... Individual states may have laws the make them illegal but they are not federal. Laser jammers do work and are available on the open market..
Ahhhh thank you. I know they work but not sure how they worked. Cool info.
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Originally Posted by SOM02WS6
There are laser jammers that do work and don't violate FCC rules, I recently found couple of passive radar jammes out there.. But those don't work for a crap, this is the only active radar jammer that I can find Scorpion Ultimate radar jammer. But it also has trouble on the new radar bands. K and KA were able to be jammed but the new digital bandwidths are much harder and none of the new jammers are effective in some cases they cause the radar to display a higher speed.........Read all you want to know here:http://www.radardetector.net/forums/
hehe im a member there already same sn.

i posted about getting a laser jammer on my ws6 but it seems you have to mod the front bumper and i dont want to do that

its a real good forum btw
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Originally Posted by DeepV
They also happen to be affliated with radar roy, guess who supplies the units.
What site isn't somehow affiliated with radar roy? http://www.radardetector.net/forums/ He's an administrator there too...
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Originally Posted by NateHale88
Is there a cop scanner or radar detector or something I can get to help prevent this in the future?
Stop driving 15 over the limit!
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Originally Posted by 5SiX1
the only radar detector worth buying is the Valentine V1. 400 dollars of radar proofing bliss. it's got the longest range out there so unless the cop is a good 4 miles out and has a laser with no cars in front of you. you're not going to get busted. period. the range is so far that any on off laser is picked up, when it hits cars ahead of you. the only thing better than a V1 is a CB radio and you hearing the transmissions of where every cop is parked.
The Valentine is the most overrated radar detector out there. The only good thing about it is it points in the direction of the radar. I'll take my Beltronics V955 any day of the week. Picks up cops from 2 entire miles away on straightaways and costs $150.
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Radar detectors do work, however with modern instant-on radars, the margin of safety is shrinking. Lasers are another matter entirely and most of the laser detectors in my opinion are about as useful as strapping a bullet detector to your chest and trying to dodge when fired on. If you are lucky, you will catch some scatter from another nearby car being hit and the detector will catch it. Otherwise they are just an alarm that you have just been clocked. I have been a cop for almost 6 years and have written hundred upon hundreds of speed citations. ( .....And for the record I am very lenient, 15mph over is my personal minimum for city streets and 20 mph on the highway. Less than that and I won't even look twice...... )
I can't speak for how all officers work, but personally, I don't shoot every car I see. After watching enough traffic it is quite easy to spot speeding cars and then single them out with the laser. I use a Laser Technologies UltraLyte LR speed laser. It is cordless and about the size of a hairdryer. At 1500 feet, the beam is approximately 3.5 feet in diameter and will return an accurate mph reading in less than one second. You can get decent return from cars as far away as 3000 feet if the humidity is low. (Weather does play a factor, but only with the range, not the accuracy. I have stopped numerous cars with virtually every brand of detector and the drivers all say the same thing...... "I slowed down as soon as it went off!"
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Originally Posted by Samba242
"I slowed down as soon as it went off!"
I still like the "well my radar detector didnt go off so you cant give me a ticket" excuse. Like i said in an earlier post, we dont even need radar or laser to write speeders out here, just visual acquisition and our estimate. Just means a little more OT in Court, post tour!
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Originally Posted by DeepV
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I have a lot of LEOs for family, while you can train someone to estimate speed you can only do just that, estimate. To create a citation you figure they would have to have some sort of proof. Here in florida they can give you a speeding ticket without proof but they have to file it under "excessive speed" or something of similar wording. Regardless, still a bs ticket and a hefty charge.

We are trained to visually estimate speed with a +-5mph accuracy. The speeding tickets are broken down in such wide mph segments, that we usually lowball the speed to a lesser ticket. Not to mention we get sent for training multiple times a year.

We have a variation of your excessive speed also, "speed unnecessary and imprudent", plus a catch all "reckless driving". Depends on your attitude when i walk up to your window. Your respectful and you get the first scenario. Start running your mouth off and your next paycheck will be made out to the state. Record is 10 tickets for one car stop, only because thats all i carry with me!
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Attitude plays a major role. I'm very nice and respectful if I'm getting pulled over and I know I'm in the wrong, but if I get pulled over for BS I can and will run my mouth and I can be quite the *******. I got pulled over 3 times in a week for being a "suspicious vehicle" driving my stock LT1 SS through town, twice from the same cop. Let's just say I made enemies with that ********. Saying "harrassment" usually pisses them off, also

Cops around here abuse the **** out of "exhibition of speed", which is basically our accelerating too fast but we didn't radar you law. I was yelled at once on my bike for exhibition of speed because I was ahead of traffic and he didn't like it. ******** blocked a turning lane and was yelling at me well after the light turned green.. then another bike flew by and he busted him.

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Originally Posted by Samba242
Radar detectors do work, however with modern instant-on radars, the margin of safety is shrinking. Lasers are another matter entirely and most of the laser detectors in my opinion are about as useful as strapping a bullet detector to your chest and trying to dodge when fired on. If you are lucky, you will catch some scatter from another nearby car being hit and the detector will catch it. Otherwise they are just an alarm that you have just been clocked. I have been a cop for almost 6 years and have written hundred upon hundreds of speed citations. ( .....And for the record I am very lenient, 15mph over is my personal minimum for city streets and 20 mph on the highway. Less than that and I won't even look twice...... )
I can't speak for how all officers work, but personally, I don't shoot every car I see. After watching enough traffic it is quite easy to spot speeding cars and then single them out with the laser. I use a Laser Technologies UltraLyte LR speed laser. It is cordless and about the size of a hairdryer. At 1500 feet, the beam is approximately 3.5 feet in diameter and will return an accurate mph reading in less than one second. You can get decent return from cars as far away as 3000 feet if the humidity is low. (Weather does play a factor, but only with the range, not the accuracy. I have stopped numerous cars with virtually every brand of detector and the drivers all say the same thing...... "I slowed down as soon as it went off!"
damn 15over the limit in a street? thats alot assuming its a 40mph street or something
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Originally Posted by Slp2002Z28
I feel ya'll i got two speeding tickets in the last 6 months..... 76/55 and 71/55 this cars feel great at 70mph...but today i bought the beltronics rx65 !!! its a beast!! its just as good as valentine or escort!!
I bought an RX65 a few years ago too. Been pretty happy with it as well, a very good radar detector.
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Originally Posted by oberth1
I still like the "well my radar detector didnt go off so you cant give me a ticket" excuse. Like i said in an earlier post, we dont even need radar or laser to write speeders out here, just visual acquisition and our estimate. Just means a little more OT in Court, post tour!
I've heard that one a few times too...... always makes me smile. That must be nice with the estimates. Our courts would laugh at us if we started writing people based on our visual estimates. It wasn't until recently that we could pace traffic with our own cars and write citations.


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