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Old 09-01-2015, 02:25 PM
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You, sir, do not live in an area where the roads are very forgiving!
You are correct. The roads here make me sad.

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I understand the rubber in the shock seals doesn't have much of a shelf life beyond 10 years. (I also always have a tough time testing our shocks because the springs are so tight.) I never knew how weak my original shocks were until I got new ones on the car.
I'm not sure if there is any truth to that "expiration date", it probably has more to do with combined factors of age/mileage/ambient conditions than just age alone. I've owned this car since it was almost new, and the shocks behave about the same now at age 17 as they did when they were just a few years old. There was no noticeable change at all in ride quality around the ~10 year mark.

Having said that, I certainly agree that Bilsteins are a big improvement but as I drive the car so little I've not yet felt compelled to move forward with this. If I live long enough, I'm sure I will one day.
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Originally Posted by sjsingle1
I also got the Derale 13224 Frame Rail Transmission Cooler after seeing your post, it is a nice clean set up. $31.95 delivered:
http://www.amazon.com/Derale-13224-Frame-Transmission-Cooler/dp/B001QITRE0 http://www.amazon.com/Derale-13224-Frame-Transmission-Cooler/dp/B001QITRE0

Normal driving power steering temperature was 180* (I have a 180* thermostat), it is now 125* on a mid 70's day.

The Derale 13224 comes with 1/2" inlet/outlet hose connections and a 11/32" hose that didn't fit. So your going to need to get 3/8" & 1/2" hose's and adapters to join them together!

Couplings - Reducer (barbed x barbed)
Item Description Price & Quantity
1/2" barb x 3/8" barb $4.15 2ea.
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/barb.html




Home Depot:
SharkBite 1/2 in. x 3/8 in. Brass PEX Barb Reducer Coupling
Model # UC009LFA
Internet # 202270567
Store SKU # 275136
$1.58 /each
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite...9LFA/202270567





3/8 inch ID Hose
http://www.amazon.com/Derale-13016-Transmission-Engine-Hose/dp/B004XONNTE/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_5 http://www.amazon.com/Derale-13016-Transmission-Engine-Hose/dp/B004XONNTE/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_5

1/2 inch ID Hose
http://www.amazon.com/Derale-15701-Transmission-Engine-Hose/dp/B004XONTCU/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1333134961&sr=1-3 http://www.amazon.com/Derale-15701-Transmission-Engine-Hose/dp/B004XONTCU/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1333134961&sr=1-3

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I literally went numb looking for an answer. If someone could be so kind if it was in the 20+ pages lol. Can you run the Low pressure side of PS through the radiator like the auto cooler portion and it be acceptable?
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Originally Posted by BlackNHRA
I literally went numb looking for an answer. If someone could be so kind if it was in the 20+ pages lol. Can you run the Low pressure side of PS through the radiator like the auto cooler portion and it be acceptable?
You could, but this will heat up your PS fluid (same as what the stock PS cooler does, maybe not quite as hot since the stock trans cooler is on the cool side of the radiator).
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Just figured I'd update my power steering cooler status... I decided to remove the Derale cooler I put on last year when I deleted the OE cooler. I notice absolutely no difference without it. So, I'll stand by my anecdotal assessment that all one needs is the upper radiator hose from a non-PSC car to alleviate this issue rather than going through the hassle of installing an aftermarket cooler. It's also nice not having those extra hoses running under there
Hi, im in the middle of deleting the stock ps cooler on my 2000 camaro. Im planning to just installing a generic radiator hose to replace the stock aluminum cooler assembly. And just connecting the small power steering hoses together not installing any cooler at all.I. would just like to ask for some pictures on how you did your set up on your car... your help is highly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by vette69
Hi, im in the middle of deleting the stock ps cooler on my 2000 camaro. Im planning to just installing a generic radiator hose to replace the stock aluminum cooler assembly. And just connecting the small power steering hoses together not installing any cooler at all.I. would just like to ask for some pictures on how you did your set up on your car... your help is highly appreciated.

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I deleted the PS cooler in the same fashion on my '02, I don't have any pictures but really it's quite simple. You just take the return hose (line coming off the rack) off of the cooler, cut down the hose to shorten it, and then reconnect it to the bottom of the reservoir. The second hose (running from the cooler to the reservoir) can then be discarded along with the cooler itself. This is exactly how the factory non-PSC cars were setup from the factory.
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So I'm getting ready to do this mod, and figured I'd flush the PS fluid at the same time.

My question is, is it possible to just turn the pump pulley by hand and flush it that way instead of starting the engine? I'm a little concerned about it running dry, and unfortunately, my weekends don't line up with other people so I'd only have my girlfriend to help me.
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My question is, is it possible to just turn the pump pulley by hand and flush it that way instead of starting the engine?

That would be really slow. I'd try using a drill with a socket adapter on the end to turn the thing at a higher speed.
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BTW - If you can't get a drill in there, you can find these at any hardware store:



Drill goes on one end and your socket adapter can go in the place of the screw bit in the picture.
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Doing this asap! just ordered my cooler
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Done.... super easy
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Chicago Car Show 2016: (At the Chevy display in front of a 2016 Camaro cut-away engine.)

Mrs. WSSIX99: What's that thing above the power steering pump?

Mr. WSSIX99: I'm not sure.

Mrs. WSSIX99: It looks strange.

Mr. WSSIX99: Well, those look like coolant barbs and those are the size of a power steering line... Oh, my God! They put another in-line power steering cooler on the thing!!!
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Chicago Car Show 2016: (At the Chevy display in front of a 2016 Camaro cut-away engine.)

Mrs. WSSIX99: What's that thing above the power steering pump?

Mr. WSSIX99: I'm not sure.

Mrs. WSSIX99: It looks strange.

Mr. WSSIX99: Well, those look like coolant barbs and those are the size of a power steering line... Oh, my God! They put another in-line power steering cooler on the thing!!!
lol, still using hydraulic PS.
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does anyone have any recommendations for the return line to the cooler? i spliced mine together and the 1/2 x 3/8 barb wouldnt fit so i spliced them together with a 3/8 x 3/8 barb. it fits snug but slowly drips.

as i was under there today i also noticed there was ps fluid on the return line hose above the splice too..which i thought was weird, meaning it may not just leak from the splice. id like to replace the hose. has anyone bought one from anywhere that can run from the rack to the cooler without splicing it?
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what is the barb made of?

id just figure out what size the line is (looks like 3/8 inch) and how much length you need for it to be one piece and buy some new line.
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If someone would be kind enough to spare me 25 pages of reading:

Can I simply disconnect the lines going into the cooler? This way, I can retain the "cooler" in its is original location and be done with?
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Originally Posted by Striker
If someone would be kind enough to spare me 25 pages of reading:

Can I simply disconnect the lines going into the cooler? This way, I can retain the "cooler" in its is original location and be done with?
Yes, if the cooler is not leaking.
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If someone would be kind enough to spare me 25 pages of reading:

Can I simply disconnect the lines going into the cooler? This way, I can retain the "cooler" in its is original location and be done with?
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Yes, if the cooler is not leaking.
No. In theory disconnecting the lines should be fine, but if you are bypassing the cooler to protect yourself against leaks - you still aren't protected.

With disconnected lines, you won't get P/S fluid mixing with coolant, but you would get your coolant bleeding out of the system when the cooler develops a leak. You could plug the holes, but you'd still be playing with fire. For $15, you can get a non-cooler lower radiator hose and do the bypass properly.
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I remember speaking with you regarding this issue two years ago lol (WSSIX99) I even snapped photos for you of my PS cap and rad cap and I was in the clear in terms of no fluids mixing. I haven't driven the car in two years but now that I have a proper garage for it, I will probably do something about this immediately. It is important for me that the car remain stock, but I guess I can simply keep the PS cooler on the shelf since its not broken yet.

What do I do with the lines that would now be obsolete ? Is there a way that i can plug them and tied them up? Really don't want to do any cutting....


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