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Old 07-08-2012, 11:57 PM
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So i have a 2000 chevy 5.3l, swapped into my 79 chevy 4x4.

runs about 50-60 psi depending on the vacuum of the engine.

I just recently started having a missfire, not bad enough to throw the check engine light on.

I was thinking it may be because i have a exhaust leak before the o2 sensor for some time now and it may have fouled a plug.
NOT THE CASE. i pulled both sides out and they all looked new still ( only month old AC delco's)
ONE DTC CODE I AM GETTING IS IDLE AIR CIRCUIT HIGHER THAN SET VALUE (or something along those lines)
Im not sure where else to go with this now, i even watched my o2 data..

what i am seeing is a b1s1 o2 is say +3.0% to 7%.. roughly.
while b2s1 o2 is say -.05% to -4% roughly.

i swapped a new o2 in the drivers side and it made no difference.

Does anyone else have any pointers on where to go about next? maybe a stuck injector? clogged? im not sure.
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any ideas?

also i got a 2000 5.3l, and a drive by wire 04 6.0l i believe it is. can the 6.0l injectors be ran on the 5.3l
i did noticed my 5.3l injectors were 4 nozzles, compared to 6.0 with only 2 nozzles
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If you are getting the IAC code, you may have a vacuum leak
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i though the same thing. i ended up pulling injectors out and washing out the rails with fuel, put injectors back in, doesnt seem to have as bad of a missfire, but it still is way down on power. i can only think is that they are restricted
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well i put another set of injectors in it today. a used set from a wrecking yard ( ya i know..)

but the problem is the exact same. each injector has power going to it ( tested with a noid light) but is it at the right time? idk...

this is strange how just one day it started to do this..
possibly a cam, crank, or knock sensor>

i really need help with this. anything is appreciated..

Thanks
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Are you losing any fluids? How is the compression?
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Originally Posted by Mishimoto
Are you losing any fluids? How is the compression?
does losing ATF count lol?

compression is good. i found out it was showing up on my computer that cylinder 3,4,5 all had some missfires. 3 and 4 were between 50 and 80..

i shut it off and cleared it. nothing came back for missfires.. although it was still missing.

pulled the injector wire on cylinder 3, made no difference, and same with 4
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Sounds like bad coil packs
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
Sounds like bad coil packs
already swapped those
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Did you test any of your sensors that you suspected?
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Originally Posted by Mishimoto
Did you test any of your sensors that you suspected?
idk how to test a crank, or cam sensor..i could try one out of my brother 6.0l sitting in his garage

SO today i hooked up efi live, and found that cylinder 5 was missing the most..
check volts to the coil, and volts to the injector.. both had 14.. swapped plug wires and plugs.. and no difference...


any ideas?
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Engine is stock?
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Originally Posted by Mishimoto
Engine is stock?
yeah engine is stock
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Do you possibly have a ground issue?
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Originally Posted by Mishimoto
Do you possibly have a ground issue?
i wouldnt think so, but i was thinking the same thing. i need to check and see if there is a ground for injector 5, or coil pack 5, because those are my missfire problem.

i swapped a good cylinder coil to the bad cylinder and it didnt follow. and the injectors were done before that.

idk where else to go besides maybe a ECM
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hopefully compression check tomorrow, maybe lift a valve cover. whats the compression psi suppose to be?
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Originally Posted by Dillon93dillon
hopefully compression check tomorrow, maybe lift a valve cover. whats the compression psi suppose to be?
compression check, shot to 150psi almost soon as i turned the key over.
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That sounds great, but at the same time, now what are your plans?
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Originally Posted by dillon93dillon
compression check, shot to 150psi almost soon as i turned the key over.




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