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Old 04-08-2008, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ae13291
pay a little more and get the PRC's man! there alot better!

Do you have a link for those ? I don't mind paying a little more
for something better, I just didn't know about the PRC's.



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Originally Posted by bearcatt
Do you have a link for those ? I don't mind paying a little more
for something better, I just didn't know about the PRC's.



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http://www.autozone.com/R,APP1137771...ductDetail.htm


there is a link! lol but they are cheaper price then the golds! but when you do some research on PRC and what they make, they are a very widely known brand and make all types of things and racing rotors and even patented there own brake rotor design! i had bad experiance with my old duralast golds so then after i purchased these they are way better and stay alot cooler!
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Originally Posted by ae13291
http://www.autozone.com/R,APP1137771...ductDetail.htm


there is a link! lol but they are cheaper price then the golds! but when you do some research on PRC and what they make, they are a very widely known brand and make all types of things and racing rotors and even patented there own brake rotor design! i had bad experiance with my old duralast golds so then after i purchased these they are way better and stay alot cooler!

Thanks for the link. Carbon and Metallic, interesting.

So far my brakes are working good, no sqeaks or dust but I haven't had
them very long. I certainly will do some research on PRC.



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AZ **** sucks, period. If you plan on keeping this car, use a GM pump. If you actually make a half *** decent living, consider getting a dealer to do the pump. Lifetime warranty, parts and labor, and you get a good part.

Let me give you a clue. Use the AZ part with the lifetime warranty, you WILL use it at a shitty time.

You need to ask yourself two questions:
1. What is your time worth? (if you don't know, hit up a high school math student)
2. Do you enjoy wrenching on your car enough to offset the downtime caused by question 1?

Balance 1 and 2 and see how you come out. I KNOW AZ pumps suck ***. But if you want to pass your **** parts on to the next guy ot to yourself at the worst possible time, go for it.

No matter who does the work, use either:
1. GM pump (comes with t-stat) and NEW hoses = for a driver
2. An EWP for a race car

Anything else is stupid, IMHO.

Have fun!
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Originally Posted by bearcatt
Thanks for the link. Carbon and Metallic, interesting.

So far my brakes are working good, no sqeaks or dust but I haven't had
them very long. I certainly will do some research on PRC.



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yea there popular man! try it out, to see how u like em!
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Originally Posted by jmilz28
AZ **** sucks, period. If you plan on keeping this car, use a GM pump. If you actually make a half *** decent living, consider getting a dealer to do the pump. Lifetime warranty, parts and labor, and you get a good part.

Let me give you a clue. Use the AZ part with the lifetime warranty, you WILL use it at a shitty time.

You need to ask yourself two questions:
1. What is your time worth? (if you don't know, hit up a high school math student)
2. Do you enjoy wrenching on your car enough to offset the downtime caused by question 1?

Balance 1 and 2 and see how you come out. I KNOW AZ pumps suck ***. But if you want to pass your **** parts on to the next guy ot to yourself at the worst possible time, go for it.

No matter who does the work, use either:
1. GM pump (comes with t-stat) and NEW hoses = for a driver
2. An EWP for a race car

Anything else is stupid, IMHO.

Have fun!

That certainly was an interesting post.



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Originally Posted by ae13291
yea there popular man! try it out, to see how u like em!

I'll have to keep the Duralast for now as I'm getting my parts together
for a head/cam swap. I just recently did brakes, tires, wheels, koni's,
springs, strano sway bars, new bushing for the rear control arms, etc etc...




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Originally Posted by jmilz28
AZ **** sucks, period. If you plan on keeping this car, use a GM pump. If you actually make a half *** decent living, consider getting a dealer to do the pump. Lifetime warranty, parts and labor, and you get a good part.

Let me give you a clue. Use the AZ part with the lifetime warranty, you WILL use it at a shitty time.

You need to ask yourself two questions:
1. What is your time worth? (if you don't know, hit up a high school math student)
2. Do you enjoy wrenching on your car enough to offset the downtime caused by question 1?

Balance 1 and 2 and see how you come out. I KNOW AZ pumps suck ***. But if you want to pass your **** parts on to the next guy ot to yourself at the worst possible time, go for it.

No matter who does the work, use either:
1. GM pump (comes with t-stat) and NEW hoses = for a driver
2. An EWP for a race car

Anything else is stupid, IMHO.

Have fun!
I'm all for using AC delco parts on all the F-bods and Vettes I've had...but this time I didn't see it necessary, Just for ***** and giggles I called the local Pontiac place $395 just for the pump and about another $350 for labor=NEARLY $600 I saved by going with a new autozone **** pump and doing the work myself. Call me stupid.
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Here you can see some of the major changes pertaining to AC Delco
inaddition to a little history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_...turer_Products

Just because a part is labeled AC Delco and comes in a fancy box
does not mean it's necessarily a quality part.



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would i need a t-stat housing for the mr. gasket 160 from advanced auto online store?
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Originally Posted by bearcatt
Just because a part is labeled AC Delco and comes in a fancy box
does not mean it's necessarily a quality part..
"Cause they know all they've sold you is a guaranteed piece of ****!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O2UD...eature=related
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Originally Posted by gnictry
would i need a t-stat housing for the mr. gasket 160 from advanced auto online store?

Se this thread here https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...stat+mr+gasket

The Mr Gasket 160 thermostat autozone sells won't work on a factory sytle LS1 water pump. I went with the valucraft 160.
http://www.autozone.com/R,APP85100/v...ductDetail.htm

At $32, it's working great in my car and it's half the price of the Hypertech and I don't see any difference.
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Originally Posted by Black98T/A
"Cause they know all they've sold you is a guaranteed piece of ****!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O2UD...eature=related

I remember that movie.


Ok here's one of Autozone's main suppliers... Remy International, Inc
They bought out Unit Parts Company
http://www.remyinc.com/

Affiliated with ...
http://www.delcoremy.com/

Yep that's right.

Here's another...
http://www.wellsmfgcorp.com/index.html


Some AutoZone Vendors are: The Valvoline Company, Shell Lubricants, MPA, Inc., Fenwick, EF Products, Great Neck Saw Manufacturers, R&B - Motormite, Qualis Automotive and Wells Manufacturing.


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Originally Posted by Black98T/A
Se this thread here https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...stat+mr+gasket

The Mr Gasket 160 thermostat autozone sells won't work on a factory sytle LS1 water pump. I went with the valucraft 160.
http://www.autozone.com/R,APP85100/v...ductDetail.htm

At $32, it's working great in my car and it's half the price of the Hypertech and I don't see any difference.

That's the way I felt about the Duralast Ceramic break pads made
here in the good ol USA by Morse. I can't see how the Hawk Ceramic pads
are any better. Plus they cost twice as much.


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Originally Posted by Black98T/A
I'm all for using AC delco parts on all the F-bods and Vettes I've had...but this time I didn't see it necessary, Just for ***** and giggles I called the local Pontiac place $395 just for the pump and about another $350 for labor=NEARLY $600 I saved by going with a new autozone **** pump and doing the work myself. Call me stupid.

That's fricken ridiculous to pay that much for dealer parts and labor.




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