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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Ok over the past few tanks i've noticed my mpg getting worse and worse. My driving habits haven't changed. I drive about 50% hwy and 50% cty and on my last tank I got 15.22 mpg. Thats terrible. I have new plugs/wires, new fuel filter, and a good dyno tune. Im not throwing any codes either. The o2s were extended by myself and are the originals as far as I know, so they have about 88k miles on them. I only use 93 octane at exxon, and I tried a gumout fuel system cleaner that obviously didn't work. I don't really want to buy new o2 sensors either because of some cash flow issues at the moment lol. What should I do?
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Do you still have the cats on?
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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^^Yeah high flow cats...
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Air Filter Clean? What RPMS you shift at?
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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It might have to do with the amount of ethanol being added to gas now. I have heard about people getting less mpg and even throwing some codes just because of the gas.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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^That is true. But, it should'nt make that big of a difference.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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this is for everyone, go to a shop and get them to do an injector flush, like a real one, not one of them ***** pour a bottle in the tank and drive off. i'm talking about hooking it up to your fuel rail, disabling your fuel pump and running if off of their container....making **** loads of smoke cleaning it out (no seafoam wont take care of what i'm talking about, i'm talking about actually cleaning the injector's themselves) that ALWAYS helps increase mileage, i've had people gain 5 mpg just because their car's had 150k miles on them and they never knew you were suppost to clean them up professionally.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Well, you can do it your self. Get a pressure can, dissable the fuel pump and let it rip.

The only propblem is finding the stuff. They use to sell that **** back at school(UTI).

Or you can just hand over 80 Bucks and have a shop do it. It really does make a difference.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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just cheaper and faster to let a shop do it, just do a 50/50 mix of the cleaning and gas, and presurize the canister to 65 psi and start playing with the pedal making sure not to back fire it lol, bet someone can burn their leg hairs by walking past the exhaust tail pipe lol
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That should work fine.


Driveability/ MPG issues suck. And take forever to figure out.
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with 88k miles your almost due for new o2s anyways. I'd go ahead and replace those
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Originally Posted by 1996firebirdformula
Air Filter Clean? What RPMS you shift at?
Yeah the filter is pretty clean. Its a volant intake so I clean it and re-oil it about once every 5000 miles. Plus I did the FRA mod so the filter gets dirtier quicker. As far as rpms go, it hardly ever sees above 2000. I skip gears most of the time as well.
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It might have to do with the amount of ethanol being added to gas now. I have heard about people getting less mpg and even throwing some codes just because of the gas.
I have thought about this but I haven't heard of anyone else getting worse mileage. My dad fills up at the same station and actually got the best mileage he's ever gotten a couple taks back.
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just cheaper and faster to let a shop do it, just do a 50/50 mix of the cleaning and gas, and presurize the canister to 65 psi and start playing with the pedal making sure not to back fire it lol, bet someone can burn their leg hairs by walking past the exhaust tail pipe lol
I might have to try this. Where can I get this pressure can at?
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with 88k miles your almost due for new o2s anyways. I'd go ahead and replace those
Yeah I know I probably should but thats kind of a last resort just because those corvette o2s are like 70 bucks a pop.

I may try filling up at a different station next time just to try and eliminate any variables. And thanks for ther replies!
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old O2's plus **** gas = poor MPG
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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the container that im talking about is about 400 bucks.... lol see why i said its easier to get the shop to do it. there are pressurized cans that have the stuff already but you have to buy a box at a time and really is more of a hassle since you have to use their brand only
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the container that im talking about is about 400 bucks.... lol see why i said its easier to get the shop to do it. there are pressurized cans that have the stuff already but you have to buy a box at a time and really is more of a hassle since you have to use their brand only
lol ok well I think ill pass on that... Ill look around for a shop that'll do it cheap. Ill clean my air filter again and clean my maf while im at it. And I might go ahead and bite the bullet and get the vette o2s
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Stop using Exxon gas. They don't put enough detergent in it to keep the engine clean. http://toptiergas.com/ GM recommends going to one of these retailers: http://toptiergas.com/retailers.html A few tanks of good gas may help.


You can find one of the treatments folks are talking about above referred to commercially as a MotorVac CarbonClean treatment. I paid a local shop $85 to do the treatment for me and got an additional 2 mpg in the city and on the highway. With the current price of gas, it will pay for itself after around 15 fill-ups.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Stop using Exxon gas. They don't put enough detergent in it to keep the engine clean. http://toptiergas.com/ GM recommends going to one of these retailers: http://toptiergas.com/retailers.html A few tanks of good gas may help.


You can find one of the treatments folks are talking about above referred to commercially as a MotorVac CarbonClean treatment. I paid a local shop $85 to do the treatment for me and got an additional 2 mpg in the city and on the highway. With the current price of gas, it will pay for itself after around 15 fill-ups.
Oh well it was always my understanding that most stations got there gas from the same place anyways. The top tier thing is interesting, might be something to consider. But really the only reason I get exxon gas is becasue my dad works for exxonmobil and we get a discount on gas. I will try another station on the next tank to see what happens.
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You can get denso o2 sensors for 45 ish a piece
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also put into consideration that theres other things that affect gas mileage as well, such as wieght, tire pressure, aerodynamics--i'm gonna go out on a limb an assume you haven't been adding wieght to the vehicle so have you checked you're tire pressure?
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Alignment can also big factor some times.
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