LS6 vs FAST 90/90 vs Fast 92/92
12-17-2008, 03:45 PM
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12-17-2008, 03:51 PM
#43
Honestly? Not too well, haha. but i he was having ***-loads of problems with the clutch/PP/etc.
Really good guy and family though! He was pissed and cussing about 80% of the weekend and making pass after pass after pass.....
Me...I make 4 passes, brake the bellhousing in half on my A3, and get drunk and have a blast the rest of the weekend....hahaha
I think he did eventually get it straightened out though(thanks to alot of help from Tick Perf) and ran a new best though! I think it was a high 11? Must have been a stock c.i. cam only car with stock heads i think. It was on slicks and skinnies though (m6 car) off a 2-step.
Really good guy and family though! He was pissed and cussing about 80% of the weekend and making pass after pass after pass.....
Me...I make 4 passes, brake the bellhousing in half on my A3, and get drunk and have a blast the rest of the weekend....hahaha
I think he did eventually get it straightened out though(thanks to alot of help from Tick Perf) and ran a new best though! I think it was a high 11? Must have been a stock c.i. cam only car with stock heads i think. It was on slicks and skinnies though (m6 car) off a 2-step.
Of course I got mine used for MUCH less than that!
12-17-2008, 04:02 PM
#45
Honestly? Not too well, haha. but i he was having ***-loads of problems with the clutch/PP/etc.
Really good guy and family though! He was pissed and cussing about 80% of the weekend and making pass after pass after pass.....
Me...I make 4 passes, brake the bellhousing in half on my A3, and get drunk and have a blast the rest of the weekend....hahaha
I think he did eventually get it straightened out though(thanks to alot of help from Tick Perf) and ran a new best though! I think it was a high 11? Must have been a stock c.i. cam only car with stock heads i think. It was on slicks and skinnies though (m6 car) off a 2-step.
Really good guy and family though! He was pissed and cussing about 80% of the weekend and making pass after pass after pass.....
Me...I make 4 passes, brake the bellhousing in half on my A3, and get drunk and have a blast the rest of the weekend....hahaha
I think he did eventually get it straightened out though(thanks to alot of help from Tick Perf) and ran a new best though! I think it was a high 11? Must have been a stock c.i. cam only car with stock heads i think. It was on slicks and skinnies though (m6 car) off a 2-step.
Man thats no good. I dread my car not running good. I hope it does though. MS4 cam car, 241 heads, Victor JR, Elbow, 92mm NW TB, Longtubes, Bullet Mufflers, TH350 Trans, Brake, 5000 UCC converter, 4.10s, full suspension, gutted, glass hood, no ps, no ac, kirky, slicks n skinnies, blah blah blah.
12-17-2008, 04:05 PM
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12-17-2008, 04:14 PM
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Thanks man. Il hit solid 11's wich is my overall goal with this setup no problem. And if I get a lot of **** for losing to a guy with a fast who runs a tenth faster......I'll take the money I saved on the heads and Intake to buy a very nice Spray kit and look back and shake my head.
12-17-2008, 04:23 PM
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Yeah....that makes total sense....idiot! Sold the whole kit for 900 local anyway. And take a look dumbass.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...stock-cam.html
Here is some of what your Fast intake can do.....Just dont have the money for it. But about the heads....Your wrong my friend.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...stock-cam.html
Here is some of what your Fast intake can do.....Just dont have the money for it. But about the heads....Your wrong my friend.
12-17-2008, 04:25 PM
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i gained 35rwhp/10rwtq OVER with a ported FAST 90/90 over the Ls6 intake and stock TB (non P&P)...
let's see bought 90/90 for $900 the previous owner installed, started, but 0 road miles, and sold the Ls6 intake I had for $350. so for $550 dollars I feel it was worth it. oh and this was with the 224 cam and Ls6 Stage II heads already on the car. this was a simple intake/TB swap and retune...
let's see bought 90/90 for $900 the previous owner installed, started, but 0 road miles, and sold the Ls6 intake I had for $350. so for $550 dollars I feel it was worth it. oh and this was with the 224 cam and Ls6 Stage II heads already on the car. this was a simple intake/TB swap and retune...
12-17-2008, 04:30 PM
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i gained 35rwhp/10rwtq OVER with a ported FAST 90/90 over the Ls6 intake and stock TB (non P&P)...
let's see bought 90/90 for $900 the previous owner installed, started, but 0 road miles, and sold the Ls6 intake I had for $350. so for $550 dollars I feel it was worth it. oh and this was with the 224 cam and Ls6 Stage II heads already on the car. this was a simple intake/TB swap and retune...
let's see bought 90/90 for $900 the previous owner installed, started, but 0 road miles, and sold the Ls6 intake I had for $350. so for $550 dollars I feel it was worth it. oh and this was with the 224 cam and Ls6 Stage II heads already on the car. this was a simple intake/TB swap and retune...
12-17-2008, 04:38 PM
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Were you on the same dyno? Holy cow! Your telling me you gained 35rwhp over what you did with the ls6 intake! How much did you gain with the LS6? 10? Thats like 45whp from just the intake??? IDK man....Somthings not adding up.....thing even the FAST users will back me up on this one...that cant be rite....if it is....im very impressed.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...tons-pics.html
it all adds up. same dyno..
even took it over to LG Motorsports the same day with only the drive time between the two shops and showed gains of 30rwhp/5rwtq. no BS there...
give me a second and ill pull the before and after dyno sheets from LG to show im not pullin anyones leg...
12-17-2008, 04:58 PM
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now, i guess if you want to split hairs over a +/- 5rwhp/rwtq difference between 2 dynos, then feel free. considering the multiple varialbes in regards to dynos, the gains are solid as shown between the two, respectively...
most people will/have said these results arent typical and i agree, however there are other individuals out there who have had the similar results i have. regardless, these people are impressed. its all about purchasing and using components that compliment each other.
i found that for my application the Ls6 intake was my choking point. i changed that. for me and my experience, the Ls6 was a waste of time and money. im happy that i went with the FAST 90/90...
most people will/have said these results arent typical and i agree, however there are other individuals out there who have had the similar results i have. regardless, these people are impressed. its all about purchasing and using components that compliment each other.
i found that for my application the Ls6 intake was my choking point. i changed that. for me and my experience, the Ls6 was a waste of time and money. im happy that i went with the FAST 90/90...
12-17-2008, 06:04 PM
#58
Sounds like you are good with a LS6. My car originally came with a Ls1 intake. I upgraded to a LS6/Ported TB, then to a Fast 90/90. Now i am Edelbrock Vic. Jr w/ high flow elbow and Edelbrock TB.
I guess to me what i learned is get the best, because I GUARENTEE YOU in time you will begin questioning "I wonder how much is sitting on the table not having a fast 90/90?". And before you know it, you will be in the classified's looking for one. I'm not a Fast nut-swinger by any means. Hell, I could care less if you run a truck intake. Just don't look like a close-minded fool(you were in the beginning of this thread) insinuating people are wasting money on a fast, or "only spending the extra $$$ because of a name"
Good luck with it bro!
Tim
PS-->I need the money! hahahaha
I guess to me what i learned is get the best, because I GUARENTEE YOU in time you will begin questioning "I wonder how much is sitting on the table not having a fast 90/90?". And before you know it, you will be in the classified's looking for one. I'm not a Fast nut-swinger by any means. Hell, I could care less if you run a truck intake. Just don't look like a close-minded fool(you were in the beginning of this thread) insinuating people are wasting money on a fast, or "only spending the extra $$$ because of a name"
Good luck with it bro!
Tim
PS-->I need the money! hahahaha
bet you dont need it as much as me.. haha..
or i could be wrong!
Your going with a MS series cam and a LS6 intake. Good for you. Not only will you be crying about your low torque numbers around town, you will be crying about low HP numbers as well. Any MS series cam loves RPM"S. Im sure we didnt have to tell you that. The FAST picks up 20 HP at LEAST.... Threw the ENTIRE RPM band. This MS cam is going to hate you for going with a LS6. To each there own I guess, But all these people who have a FAST, understand that at the dino and the track.... its that little "extra" that made you faster than the guy next to you.... with an LS6.
Were you on the same dyno? Holy cow! Your telling me you gained 35rwhp over what you did with the ls6 intake! How much did you gain with the LS6? 10? Thats like 45whp from just the intake??? IDK man....Somthings not adding up.....thing even the FAST users will back me up on this one...that cant be rite....if it is....im very impressed.
if i had heads it would have been a little more increase with the intake, and the 410s robbed a little more hp than the 323s... im also an a4...
so a 40rwhp increase with a god sized cam and heads, i would say is very believable..
12-17-2008, 06:07 PM
#59
^ I am leaning towards the MS3 anyway at this point. The power comes on quick and seems like it doesn't need huge room up top. Thanks for all the info guys. Maybe when I do a much larger build I will decide to go with the FAST. Just dont feel that it is worth the money to power increase ratio on this one. Not to mention I don't think that even though it is capable of more...I would never need to use it.
Didnt mean to seem stuburn...just rite of the bat I get the so typical SEARCH button comment and it's like...uhh I am asking a direct ? here. Thanks again.
Didnt mean to seem stuburn...just rite of the bat I get the so typical SEARCH button comment and it's like...uhh I am asking a direct ? here. Thanks again.
Put down the crack pipe.........
