LS6 vs FAST 90/90 vs Fast 92/92
12-17-2008, 06:59 PM
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I would like to see what each one is going to add on a bone stock LS1....RWHP NUMBERS!!!!...ALso post price next to each one...this is going to help me with some of my research. I know that the more you spend the better..and that it will depend on mods....but id like to compare them closely. THanks
12-17-2008, 07:11 PM
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Damn, your're going w/ an MS3 and DONT want a FAST 90 or 92? I'm running a much smaller Torquer 2 and have already put the $$ aside for a Vengeance Ported 92.
I see your point w/ the whole budget minded thing. Been there for 2 solid years now. But I'm at the point and you will be too, where there is SOOO much left on the table.
You're still stock LS1 mani so 40+hp IS reasonable estimate +/- few hp. So here, for your budget minded self - LS6 $300 for 15ish hp = 20$/hp and unported/ported FAST $850 for 40ish = 21.25$/hp. Even if you want to downplay the FAST's capabilities say $850 for 30ish hp = 28.33/hp. Still going to be worth it.
There's a reason why it's probably the #1 rated aftermarket manifold in the LSx performance community. GET IN LINE DUDE!!
I see your point w/ the whole budget minded thing. Been there for 2 solid years now. But I'm at the point and you will be too, where there is SOOO much left on the table.
You're still stock LS1 mani so 40+hp IS reasonable estimate +/- few hp. So here, for your budget minded self - LS6 $300 for 15ish hp = 20$/hp and unported/ported FAST $850 for 40ish = 21.25$/hp. Even if you want to downplay the FAST's capabilities say $850 for 30ish hp = 28.33/hp. Still going to be worth it.
There's a reason why it's probably the #1 rated aftermarket manifold in the LSx performance community. GET IN LINE DUDE!!
12-17-2008, 07:26 PM
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I picked up 21rwhp on the dyno on a STOCK engine. Same day, same tune, same dyno, never even unstrapped it. Zero changes except for the intake manifold.
12-17-2008, 07:27 PM
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I disagree. My truck has an LQ9 shortblock, Stock LS2 heads, Stock LS2 cam, Stock LS2 intake, Stock manifolds, basically an iron block LS2.
I picked up 21rwhp on the dyno on a STOCK engine. Same day, same tune, same dyno, never even unstrapped it. Zero changes except for the intake manifold.
I picked up 21rwhp on the dyno on a STOCK engine. Same day, same tune, same dyno, never even unstrapped it. Zero changes except for the intake manifold.
12-17-2008, 07:58 PM
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Yeah the whole reason for the LS6 was the budget but he said if he was going to buy an LS6 intake, for something that expensive he was going to have to buy it new. 
Those intakes don't really wear out much you know. lol Choosing an MS3 because of the LSA it has(don't you have lots of LSA choices here?), bottom end power, and using an LS6 intake with that cam vs the FAST=funny thread
Those intakes don't really wear out much you know. lol Choosing an MS3 because of the LSA it has(don't you have lots of LSA choices here?), bottom end power, and using an LS6 intake with that cam vs the FAST=funny thread
12-17-2008, 08:04 PM
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it would be dumb to get a new ls6 intake with the prices of the used FASTs being so cheap now..
12-17-2008, 08:28 PM
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I disagree. My truck has an LQ9 shortblock, Stock LS2 heads, Stock LS2 cam, Stock LS2 intake, Stock manifolds, basically an iron block LS2.
I picked up 21rwhp on the dyno on a STOCK engine. Same day, same tune, same dyno, never even unstrapped it. Zero changes except for the intake manifold.
I picked up 21rwhp on the dyno on a STOCK engine. Same day, same tune, same dyno, never even unstrapped it. Zero changes except for the intake manifold.
12-17-2008, 11:10 PM
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I just looked over the last 4 pages and damn what a stupid *** read that was. lol
To the Op, I myself will be going H/C soon. Depending on my tax return I would like to go TFS 215's and a custom spec'd cam to match. (please dont flame me because i'll have $1,000 more in my swap for 30-40hp and a way better curve) for me im always thinking about whats being left on the table. I mod my car to race it, and if im racing I like to be winning. I also know the original motor wont last forever so when it goes i'll already have a good top end to complement the extra cubes. im a firm believer in doing it right, doing it once. Im not made of money so when I can afford it im also going to WASTE my $$ on a ported FAST(its a shame to spend all the money on a H/C setup then not let it breath, I think this is the point everyone is trying to get thru to you). BTW, My LS6 is for sell if you want it??? lol
To the Op, I myself will be going H/C soon. Depending on my tax return I would like to go TFS 215's and a custom spec'd cam to match. (please dont flame me because i'll have $1,000 more in my swap for 30-40hp and a way better curve) for me im always thinking about whats being left on the table. I mod my car to race it, and if im racing I like to be winning. I also know the original motor wont last forever so when it goes i'll already have a good top end to complement the extra cubes. im a firm believer in doing it right, doing it once. Im not made of money so when I can afford it im also going to WASTE my $$ on a ported FAST(its a shame to spend all the money on a H/C setup then not let it breath, I think this is the point everyone is trying to get thru to you). BTW, My LS6 is for sell if you want it??? lol
12-18-2008, 01:11 PM
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Thanks man. Il hit solid 11's wich is my overall goal with this setup no problem. And if I get a lot of **** for losing to a guy with a fast who runs a tenth faster......I'll take the money I saved on the heads and Intake to buy a very nice Spray kit and look back and shake my head.
12-18-2008, 03:54 PM
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lets compare apples to apples here. if youre gonna give the price of a used ls6 intake, than also give the price of a used fast intake and tb. so the real difference is ~$500 new or used. but than you gotta include the tb that youll most likely want ported for the ls6 intake so figure youre paying ~$450 for 15rwhp more and a better power curve. thats DEF worth it in most peoples books
12-18-2008, 04:44 PM
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If you're going H/C, FAST is going to give a lot more than it would on a stock car, so comparing on a stock car isn't accurate. What you need is comparison between the same modded car with the two intakes. So here it is, compliments of Mr. Pat G. Top line is Mamo ported FAST 90, NW TB and bottom is LS6 w/ P&P stock TB.
12-18-2008, 05:57 PM
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lets compare apples to apples here. if youre gonna give the price of a used ls6 intake, than also give the price of a used fast intake and tb. so the real difference is ~$500 new or used. but than you gotta include the tb that youll most likely want ported for the ls6 intake so figure youre paying ~$450 for 15rwhp more and a better power curve. thats DEF worth it in most peoples books
that makes his argument even less strong then.. hahahaha
01-01-2009, 02:40 PM
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Your going to see better results with the fast hands down. Your gonna get to the point where theres not to much more you can do with your motor without spending lots of $$$.
Im h/c right now with a ls6 intake and stock tb and am at 385 to the wheels. I ordered my ported fast 92/92 from vengeance cause i feel this will be my last "bolt-on" venture for my car so i wanted to make sure i did it the right way and all out.
Anyways point is if any of that made any sense just put in a FAST its guna be a way better choice down the road and give much bigger gains
