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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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I have a used set of jet-hot headers and Y-pipe but I don't want to even install them on my 2000 WS6 T/A. I have been reading everything I can find online regarding which header is best for these cars. I believe that I'm gonna go with the ARH's w/off-road Y-pipe along with some qtp electric cutout's. Where is the best vendor to use for this purchase? TIA.
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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I do have that power...not really. But it is amazing what a search function does.
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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I was just joking. I commend you for actually USING said search button!
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Swang
great thread. I appreciate everyone's input. I'm still yet to make my decision but this was full of info...a little dick measuring and bashing, but good info was in there. Thanks to the vendors for their inputs.
I love my arh headers. My buddy had kooks 1-3/4 and his had issues with the steering rack. I'm sure kooks are great quality as well but I have no complaints with arh. and the best thing is after readin that kooks and many other designs needed the motor mounts removed to install them the arhs slid in with just a push
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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At the end. They are both great headers. Proved alot in drag racing.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I was just joking. I commend you for actually USING said search button!
well as a sergeant you know we officers like to take credit for common tasks and play them off as supernatural.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 12:29 AM
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I'd put the ARH headers at the top of my list any day over Kooks!
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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My two cents...

ARH is probably a slightly better header.

But Kooks makes the best overall system for the F-Body. Exhaust port to exhaust tip, the Kooks system is unmatched. If you ever plan to run the Kooks TDs, then Kooks Headers are worth it.

And before anyone says the price is prohibitive... the ARH system with Y-Pipe and a catback like the Borla is just as expensive as the Kooks system.

To me, there is no question what I would buy. And if you are considering ARH or Kooks, stainless and quality matter. So the catback has to meet those as well (Magnaflow at the lower end, with Borla or GMMG at the midrange or Corsa being the upper end).
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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ARH definitely has a better y-pipe merge than Kooks!
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
ARH definitely has a better y-pipe merge than Kooks!
Yeah, IMO it reflects badly on Kooks, and is a insult to the customer expecting a high quality y-pipe on par with the Kooks headers.
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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I put Kooks headers, y pipe with their new green cats on my 2009 E-Force Silverado. First experience with them and the install was flawless. The headers would have bolted right up to the factory y pipe and the header and y-pipe would have bolted up directly to the cat back. God bless the cats. They don't throw that annoying lean bank code. I'm happy!
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 07:05 AM
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My ARH went in like butter...also heard Kooks quality is just as good, but I think ARH has the better Y-pipe
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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This is actually the sole reason I did not go with Kooks.

I am still trying to resolve some header or y-pipe touching to metal with them -- hoping I don't need to replace the new rubber motor mounts w/poly ones... ARH says I should not have to, we will see...

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Yeah, IMO it reflects badly on Kooks, and is a insult to the customer expecting a high quality y-pipe on par with the Kooks headers.
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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ARH headers are a thing of beauty, but....

Kooks make a full dual exhaust. I wouldn't run anything different.
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Too many compromises IMHO with true duals from Kooks on F-Body -- I made the decision a while ago not to go that route, plus the Fays2 Watts Link reportedly may not work with it which was another deal killer for me.

Sam Strano agrees:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/14415082-post41.html


If I want true duals, I will buy a 5th Gen Camaro...


Originally Posted by TImmy_Jones
ARH headers are a thing of beauty, but....

Kooks make a full dual exhaust. I wouldn't run anything different.

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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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What compromise is that? That you can't run a Watts link?

I wouldn't run any other system on these cars. They have the worst exhaust that chokes out any power. And they sound horrid half the time.

This sounds great, doesn't lose power, and isn't really any heavier. Yes, it's two pipes, but only a couple of feet in the intermediate pipe where it has two vs a y-pipe/catback's one pipe. That weight is offset by the catback's actual muffler (unless it's a loudmouth).
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Yes, Watts Link could be an issue, have to add both a Driveshaft Safety Loop & Panhard Rod Relocation Kit, and the cars are not made for duals, so how many clanks against the body due to tight fitment? Besides, dual 3 in. pipe is way overkill on most F-Bodies.

Worst exhaust? My SS sounds great and flows well with my ARH stepped headers and cat'd ypipe with noweeds diverter and SLP dual dual. No complaints.


I still want someone from Kooks to explain why they cannot engineer a proper y-pipe merge!


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What compromise is that? That you can't run a Watts link?

I wouldn't run any other system on these cars. They have the worst exhaust that chokes out any power. And they sound horrid half the time.

This sounds great, doesn't lose power, and isn't really any heavier. Yes, it's two pipes, but only a couple of feet in the intermediate pipe where it has two vs a y-pipe/catback's one pipe. That weight is offset by the catback's actual muffler (unless it's a loudmouth).
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 03:56 AM
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Their duals do work with Watts. Both Ys suck regardless of manufacturer. Yes, ARH is slightly better. Have one built the right way and be done.
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 05:07 AM
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How loud is the Kooks TD system?
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