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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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So I was getting my headers installed and noticed that I have 1 241 head and 1 853 head. Is there anything that could go really wrong with this? I didn't look that close when buying and it runs fine, but I am wondering if the mismatch is causing anything to go bad.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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damm, a friend of mine did the same thing to his camaro cause he damaged a valve guid on a 241 and it runns but like sh*t...lol..
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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It's not going to cause anything that you'd ever notice. When was your car built? There was another thread about this from a guy who believed his car came that way from the factory.

They switched from 853's to 241's sometime in middle of MY2000. Your car may have been built that way during the transition.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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wow so it is possible that GM would do this? I was pondering that but didnt believe it. does anyone know the specific differences?
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Well other than one head having a perimeter bolt valve cover and the other having a center bolt i dont see much of a problem unless you wanting aftermarket valve covers..
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good call
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241s are perimeter I thought they were center bolt?
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I think they are both center bolt. My 853s are.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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98 853s are perimeter bolt. 99-mid 00, 853s are center bolt
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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Yes both heads are center bolt. I doubt GM would do that from the factory, although there isnt that much of a difference except for the way they were casted.
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Originally Posted by nemss1
98 853s are perimeter bolt. 99-mid 00, 853s are center bolt
wow i didn't know that. 806's are the standard 98 head which are perimeter. all the 853's i've seen have been center bolt.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by outkast6991
wow i didn't know that. 806's are the standard 98 head which are perimeter. all the 853's i've seen have been center bolt.
correct all 853 heads are center bolt. 806 castings are the perimiter bolt heads
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Originally Posted by nprather
correct all 853 heads are center bolt. 806 castings are the perimiter bolt heads
oh, my bad. got my casting numbers mixed up
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Black02SLPSS
oh, my bad. got my casting numbers mixed up
no, my bad. i was misguided
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I've seen cad models for both, including an overlay model of one on top of the other...the only differences in design are strength things (the 241's have some added gussets around some threaded holes that the 853's don't have)...not port or chamber related things...the 853's are not as nice a casting as the 241's though, I believe 853's are sand cast.

My own car is a 2000, and it has 241's...at least the one I can see the casting number on says 241...I'll check the other head with a mirror next time I'm under the hood, I don't think it's an 853 on the other side, but if it is I'll definitely post it up. I wouldn't expect it to make any difference in how it runs, but I'd still try not to mix and match them if I had the choice.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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It just makes me guess things. It is a 48,xxx mile car and I almost went to see the guy I got it from.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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don't worry about it. the car ran fine before, right? i've seen 00 cars 241 heads and my 00 car had 853 heads on it. i think there's a good possibility that gm did it. even if not, the car runs fine, leave it alone.

get some milled/ported afr 205s - problem solved.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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I have one 853 and one 241 head on my car, CNC ported using the exact same program. There's not much difference between the two.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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sounds like a plan. and yes it does run fine.
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