should come with a TB seal, the manifold runner seals need to be purchased or reuse your old ones if they are in good shape

 

Edited: incorrect info given in an informational thread.

 

My 102 came with the TB seal

 

+1, just had to buy a set of runner gaskets.

 

Oh ok all good, my ls6 manifold seals are no good and I'm not paying $120+ for GM ones, that was the last quote I got from my local holden dealer for the 8 ls6 runners seals and TB seal, will order the fast ones from the states, got to order a trunion kit anyway, so may as well do that all together.

 

Are any of you guys running this 102 fast intake with the Custom TSP MAF sensor & the latest (104mm)FTP air lid..?? If anyone has clean pics please post up.

I used my buddies FTP lid just to test fit and the lid sits WAY to high for the maf sensor and with the rest of the set up.


running fast 102 intake m. / with / TSP maf with their coupling/

Called TSP and they said i would need another coupling from the lid to the maf..??

Called FTP and they say the (104mm)lid was a straight shot from the Lid to the maf..??

A local shop says You need the Lower LT1 radiator holder/were the lid sits to lower evrything down for the it..??

........ANYBODY HAS THIS SET UP..??

 

anyone..??

 

 

Nice..!! Thanks.. I migh just have to stretch/angle the coupling that TSP send with that MAF sensor into the T.B.. Or Just Preassemble everything (lid,maf,coupling) and then drop it in.. coupling to the T.B. last.

 

im having a problem mounting my fast fuel rails on my 102 the drivers side fits fine but the brackets for the passenger side wont work they need to point to the rear of the engine instead of the front is their something im missisng because if i used the brackets the injectors are at such an angle that their would be no way they would seal any pic's ?

 

billet or oem style?

 

billet

 

anyone have any ideas?????

 

Most likely your tounge and groove seal, of the upper and lower shell, isnt completely seated!!! Check there....

 

After 8 years of modding I'm reaching the end of the road in what I'm going to do power-wise with my '04 GTO. With money being tight it's taken that long to assemble and install all of the essential pieces (LTs, SS OTRCAI, injectors, cam, heads, exhaust, UD pulley, clutch, shifter, drive shaft, gears, stubs and now manifold/TB). After debating over the TB I decided to go with the Nick Williams 102. I really wanted a 96mm as I'm a bit apprehensive of too sensitive of a throttle but I guess I'll deal with it. Nobody really needs a 102mm TB until they get a lot more power than me.

I ported the manifold myself and prepped it for the injectors and MAP sensor. I'm going to be using BBK red billet rails seeing as I couldn't use the LS1 rail. They were the same price as a plain-Jane new LS2 rail and I actually like them better than the FAST. The BBK also comes with a crossover line and connects to the stock fuel line so I don't have to spend another $140 on those like with the FAST rails. I hope to finish up the project tomorrow. If it doesn't rain tuning (by me) will follow.

I have no idea why FAST makes their manifolds grey but I don't like it so mine is black.



Seeing as everyone says you can't use 42# green tops with a 102 so I painted mine red! Pretty clever huh?

 

I have a set of the BBK rails lying around, will be very interested to see if you can get them to fit well.

 

There may be some differences as I have a LS1 GTO but. . .
Just finished and took it for a very brief test drive. My fueling was off over 5% at WOT so I didn't want to bang on her too hard. There are some install notes tho.

I used the back location for the MAP sensor (instead of the front EGR point) for a cleaner install. Most of the installs I've seen use the front point which makes for a messier look IMHO plus requires extending the wires up to the front. There isn't a lot of room in the back tho and I had to slightly bend some lines to make enough room for the connector. The front point of the intake dips down lower than the LS6 intake and it hit the steam tube holding the front of the mani up. I gingerly hammered it bending it down in the right spot so the FAST would seat down all the way without hitting. Thankfully the crossover pipe isn't leaking from the abuse. The rest of the FAST install was pretty straight forward. It was the BBK fuel rails that took some modding.

I carefully read the BBK instructions and watched the video. On the underside of the rails it has stamped where to attach the mounting brackets for a LS1, LS2 or LS3. I put them in the LS1 location. They didn't really line up and after looking at it again I realized that the FAST is really a LS2 intake that you can use on the LS1. After moving the brackets to the LS2 position they lined up.

Next up was getting the brackets mounted. BBK gives you 2 thick and 2 thinner spacers that you use in combination to get the proper spacing for the bracket to manifold. The end of the bracket that mounts to the manifold is slotted to allow for adjustment for angle. The way they show you to mount the bracket on the rail was going to need both thick spacers, a thinner spacer plus a nut to make up the distance. With the longest bolts they give you there wasn't a lot of thread holding it.

The brackets come with a slight angle from straight. I put them in a vice and bent them the other way and then mounted them "upside down" which greatly lowered the distance to manifold and gave a better angle for the rail. Instead of the bracket being up high it was now close and I had to grind the end of the bracket so it cleared the mani runner that sticks up. With one thin spacer and short bolts it gave a much better angle and looked better too.

The BBK crossover hose is rubber that you push onto hose barb fittings on the end of each rail. It went on so hard that neither my son nor I could get them on all the way. I took the assembly and put it in my oven at 170* for a while to soften the rubber and then I could push them on correctly. Being at the back on the mani it looks a lot better than the braided hose crossing the front with the FAST rails.

Pics below.

The brackets were bend just as slightly the other way. This is after my bending.



The slotted end of the bracket that attaches to the mani.



After grinding to make for enough clearance between the mani mounting point and runner.

 

BTW painting my injectors red to fit was a joke. I did paint them to get rid of the horrendous green but the greentops can work on the manifold. You don't need to get new injectors if you have "fat" ones. It just takes some simple Dremeling of the the upper and lower shells. There is plenty of material there and it doesn't affect the sealing or integrity of the FAST.

 

I was planning on mounting the MAP on the rear also for a cleaner look, but I do understand the clearance issues. Can you explain what lines you had to bend?

Very nice setup by the way. I love the flat black.

 

I like your sense of colors