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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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my exhaust has sold and in the time being i changed my mind on how i wanted to do my true duals

I read thru an old *** thread and the wise Mr. Luos said unto them
Originally Posted by Mr. Luos
Here is mine....Actually had it cleaned up since posting before.
You need to have that panhard bar kit to run 3" duals over a 9" axle.
So we took mine to 2.5" over the axle. No biggie, don't care what kinda power it makes with it capped. Actually very tame (for a large cammed 402) with the cutouts closed.
Magnaflow mufflers under the rear bumper.

[thumb]http://www.arbybean.com/ar/images/Exhaust-2.JPG[/thumb]
Those words of wisdom made me think, why dont i have 3' cut outs after the headers then run 2.5" the rest of the way back over axel and into the same magnaflow muffers that he ran?

what do you think?

Parts:
(1) Summit 2.5"or 3" X pipe
(2) Summit 3" Cutout
(2) 3" to 2.5" reducers
(?) random bent piping from a shop
(2) Magnaflow 14x5x8s
(2+) band clamps
(2) corsa clones?
hows this look (looks like a 5th grader drew it... i know)





a better look at it over driverside axel




and the mufflers right before the tips
man i love this car




Whatcha think?

2.5 or 3?
3 would be nice for power but for the strip, cut out will be open
2.5 would be nice for clearence and the back half is gonna be 2.5 anyways
2.5 would give more backpressure for DD driving with cut outs closed and the 3 cutouts will give the flow i need at the track...so
and this car will never see over 600rwhp/rwtq anyways

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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have fun with no mufflers
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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And oval pipes...good for clearance, bad for flow.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk98Vert
have fun with no mufflers
ive ran it that way before. dumped after headers im 19. being loud annoying and obnoxious is nothing new to me

and looks like oval is out of the question
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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i wouldnt screw with cutouts but looks like an alright setup. I cant believe your going to run without mufflers. dumped bullets was loud enough
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Well im open headers right now and its raspy as hell and sounds disgusting but volume wise its what im looking for! Haha.
The cutout will be there for the strip and future mods like procharger
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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im thinking 2.5" since ill have the 3" cutout for the strip....whatcha think?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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Dumped bullets isn't that loud
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Just something on the cutouts. I've never seen one actually gain anyone any HP or tenths off their 1/4 mile. Actually I've seen one car dyno worse after cutout install.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Well, from what i read. You gain low end from back pressure, but you gain high end from the cut outs. Mr. Luos had a little thread comparing his dyno sheets but he didnt have the sheets posted anymore.

Can anyone else speculate??
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
Just something on the cutouts. I've never seen one actually gain anyone any HP or tenths off their 1/4 mile. Actually I've seen one car dyno worse after cutout install.
Hmmm i picked up over 30whp with mine open?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by canada4g63
Hmmm i picked up over 30whp with mine open?
see thats what im thinking... Mr Luos picked up i forget how much but i cant remember.

but then people say they suck and dont see any improve ment.

do you have dyno sheets to compare?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bww3588
And oval pipes...good for clearance, bad for flow.
Where did you hear that? If they have the same cross-sectional area, what does it matter if they are oval or round?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zz4camaro1980
Where did you hear that? If they have the same cross-sectional area, what does it matter if they are oval or round?
^ This. if it is long enough sideways to make up for the distance from top to bottom it should have the same flow.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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either way its pricey as ****..
im a cheapo.

im leaning towards the 2.5 with the 3'' cut outs after the headers for several reasons
1-cut outs will be open when performance matters
2-more clearance with 2.5 over 3
3-$20 cheaper
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A 3 inch oval pipe has the same csa as a 2.5 round pipe roughly. In order to get the same flow out of a oval pipe as you would a 3 inch round you would need an oval pipe that is 4x2.25.

So you would gain .75 inch ground clearance but give up 1 inch side to side.

I'm not debating oval pipe can't flow just as good as round, but you can't just slap in 3 inch oval and expect it to flow the same as 3 inch round.

In that case, you may as well save money and buy 2.5 round tubing and live with the .25 inch less ground clearance and the added 1.5 inch clearance side to side.
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