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Old 03-07-2013, 10:25 AM
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yes id love to have one but $200-300 is a bit steep for me
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I wish I could get the fbody lid to work on my car. It's much more efficient and will have cooler IATs than a CAI with a bunch of bends running behind the radiator.

Just get a lid that fits...everyone I know has ran the SLP lid with no issues.
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my SLP lid fits without issues.
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Well, my friend ran the ftp 104. His hood really fucked it up since he has to slam it on there.
That same friend ran a mti clear lid... cracked after 2 months. My slp wasnt the greatest...

If i were to run another lid i was considerin ligenfelters whisper lid or Granatelli Motorsports
Either one id defiantly sand it down and repaint it
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im running the slp, sanded down and painted. If your more concerned with appearance than performance, do it how you wish. I'm sure you could easily go to a shop that does fab and have them custom weld up the tubing needed once you find your elbows if you plan on using rubber/plastic. just make sure that however you decide to do it that you take into water consederations as well, wouldnt want to suck any up
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I feel that water would be harder to get up thru this set up the a lid
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My SLP lid fits fine. A lot of times when they don't, it's because of the bellow. I actually had to trim mine a little.

Look up DJFury05. He's got an over the radiator intake that looks pretty good.
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I'm not sure where these quality issues arise. But myself and my friends all together have owned or run SLP, Texas Speed, Granatelli, MTI, FTP, LS1 motorsports and Whisper with no issues at all. And if you must make a compromise buy a used K&N FIPK, polish the radiator support and be done with it.
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I'm with those in keeping a lid.

When I had a LT1 I researched it pleeeeenty. Lid > "traditional CAI"

I also think the filter has a lot to do with how well the lid fits.
I don't know which lid is on my car, but it fits 100000x tighter with a Wix paper filter over a K&N.
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I run an SLP. Fitment is great. A few strips of 1/4" weatherstripping goes a long ways to ensure you have a good seal between the K&N and the lid. If you're running a paper or an AMSoil this isn't an issue.

You're not going to beat a lid. Hell, there was a post on FaceBook a few days ago from Tick Performance about a car they tuned that had an LT1 style cold air intake and it picked up a hell of a lot more than 5hp.

While I applaud your inginuity, you're beating a dead horse. An elbow set up simply will not come anywhere CLOSE to a properly fed lid setup. Period.
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
While I applaud your inginuity, you're beating a dead horse. An elbow set up simply will not come anywhere CLOSE to a properly fed lid setup. Period.
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lets see if i can get a lid answer ive asked many times with no answer and im sorry to hijack your thread. lids such as the 98mm or 104mm, is just the inlet bigger on them for a bigger maf, or is the internal size of the actual lid bigger also
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I believe cosmetically the tube CAI is nice and definately a good option, but it will not perform as well as a lid. Like trying to breath through a straw.
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Uh well i wouldnt put it right in front of the radiator thats the biggest heat sink possible
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Really is a good thread, very useful




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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I run an SLP. Fitment is great. A few strips of 1/4" weatherstripping goes a long ways to ensure you have a good seal between the K&N and the lid. If you're running a paper or an AMSoil this isn't an issue.

You're not going to beat a lid. Hell, there was a post on FaceBook a few days ago from Tick Performance about a car they tuned that had an LT1 style cold air intake and it picked up a hell of a lot more than 5hp.

While I applaud your inginuity, you're beating a dead horse. An elbow set up simply will not come anywhere CLOSE to a properly fed lid setup. Period.
Dave,

The LT1 car had a LS1 swap performed and when it came to us it had dryer duct for it's intake and a tiny air filter. We changed out the dryer duct(yes it was shiny aluminum dryer duct) to 4" aluminum piping with a nice big 4" K&N filter and we picked up 37rwhp and 20rwtq.
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A over the radiator 4" pipe into the front license plate cover.. Cut the license plate cover out and fill with the mesh cover the fi guys use.
Make something that goes to all corners of the license plate hole you cut and then design some type of removable filter.. The mesh cover will keep big things out, the some type of paper filter, maybe right before the tb?

Anybody compare ^ to a lid 98/104 mm lid setup with a ram air (chr1313 etc)?
Im running sd tune.

I would think these would be incredibly close to each other.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Dave,

The LT1 car had a LS1 swap performed and when it came to us it had dryer duct for it's intake and a tiny air filter. We changed out the dryer duct(yes it was shiny aluminum dryer duct) to 4" aluminum piping with a nice big 4" K&N filter and we picked up 37rwhp and 20rwtq.

Hmm. If i could find a way to keep 4" piping all the way... Might have to relocate the fuse boxes after all
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Originally Posted by Snkebait95
Uh well i wouldnt put it right in front of the radiator thats the biggest heat sink possible
I know a guy that ran a metal 4 inch tube out the inlet in the catfish mouth and gained a tenth. Would have gained two if it wouldn't have been so hot

Plenty of guys do this once the remove the front crash foam. Ever Google the custom big mouth set-up (Madman's is worth 3mph) or cold air intakes? The problem is the bends, tube size, and crappy filters you have to run if you tired to do this with everything in place.

People have even used corvette intakes and it LAID on the radiator. Heatsoak IMO is vastly over played (read the BBK arguments). Airflow trajectories and cross section are the keys. Bends slow flow and the smallest cross section is the limiting factor, weather its the air filter inlet or the TB itself.

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My6speed.. Link to Madmad setup?


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