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Old 04-19-2014, 03:10 PM
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I purchased a Dorman balancer (594-209) for my 2003 silverado. I am installing an ls6 long block into my truck, so i need the truck balancer. Anyway, I've read all the threads about needing a special install tool to install the "balancer" (pulley). I went to mock it up to see why i need a tool, and Well this Dorman product just slid right onto the crank snout. Im guessing its a total piece of ****.
Or should i be worried about the crank snout being worn?

Id imagine since there is no keyway, that the fit needs to be extremely tight, so it wont spin on the crank. Ill be returning this to summit.

Any suggestions for a good truck pulley? I dont need an sfi balancer, just an inexpensive pulley.
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What keeps the balancer from spinning if there is no keyway? Does the balancer bolt force the pulley against the timing set on the crank?
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it shouldn't slide on, i just put a dorman one on my camaro and i needed to press it on with a piece of threaded rod.

if it slides on you either have a worn snout or defective balancer.

the bolt and press friction keeps it from spinning.
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It may be the wrong part - Rock Auto shows a Dorman 594115 for the LS6.
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It is an interference fit. That coupled with like 250ft-lbs of torque on the crank bolt is what keeps it from spinning...
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Originally Posted by Darkman
It may be the wrong part - Rock Auto shows a Dorman 594115 for the LS6.
Sorry, its not really an ls6. Ls1 with 243 heads. But now that you mention it, i chose the balancer for a 2003 silverado with a 4.8. The cranks snouts differ?

If i chose a camaro balancer the alignment would be off....
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Originally Posted by Justhereforinfo
Sorry, its not really an ls6. Ls1 with 243 heads. But now that you mention it, i chose the balancer for a 2003 silverado with a 4.8. The cranks snouts differ?

If i chose a camaro balancer the alignment would be off....
I don't know if the snouts differ, and the part numbers may differ because of the other dimensions.
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Originally Posted by justhereforinfo
i purchased a dorman balancer (594-209) for my 2003 silverado. Its a total piece of ****.
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all the crank snouts should be the same. i just finished installing a car balancer on a truck motor. do you not still have the factory one?
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Are u interested in an under drive pulley? Summit sells a cheap sfi 25% under drive pulley that I use. How much was the doorman pulley?
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Originally Posted by AKAFRED
all the crank snouts should be the same. i just finished installing a car balancer on a truck motor. do you not still have the factory one?
The only balancer i have is my 140k mile 4.8, and it in use.

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Are u interested in an under drive pulley? Summit sells a cheap sfi 25% under drive pulley that I use. How much was the doorman pulley?
No, I'd rather have my accessories at full strength, but thanks. Dorman was about $60. Im returning it to summit for the oem ac delco for $110
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While the pulley groove locations are different, the crank snout diameter is the same for the various LS engines. Do you have another balancer laying around? If yes, you can test fit it. If it also slides on without the interference fit, the crank is bad. If it needs to be pressed on, the Dorman balancer is bad.
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Also, moved to correct section
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Originally Posted by AKAFRED
it shouldn't slide on, i just put a dorman one on my camaro and i needed to press it on with a piece of threaded rod.

if it slides on you either have a worn snout or defective balancer.

the bolt and press friction keeps it from spinning.
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