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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 05:35 AM
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the other thing i was thinking about, is if the dorman top shell is really that different, and that hump represents the overall shape of the top of the runner, than the dorman intake might have less runner cross sectional area and thus overall volume compared to the FAST.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by McNasty
Damn, got my hopes up and everything lol...ls6 intake prices have been climbing ridiculously.
Ignore the fools expecting to sell them for $400. They sit in the classifieds for weeks/months. I just bought one from the classifieds for $280.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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yaaa I sold mine for 675 in all of 3 days with a stock tb and rails. Ls6 prices are going crazy 400 is easily attainable out of one, I guess I'm one of those fools

thats great you got a good deal
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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That was quick. http://www.onallcylinders.com/2014/1...ake-dyno-test/
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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looks like in ported form it will just about be equal to an ls6... looks like the ls6 is still the way o go other than a fast
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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I was going to get the ls6 for Christmas, but I think I'll wait for the ls2 and see how well it performs before I choose. Whichever can be home hand ported for the best results will be my pick.

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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Thanks for posting that 5.3. And thanks to dreadpirateroberts for the pics.

The alignment of the ports look pretty poor, I'm wondering if they can be pushed into position.

Honestly, the dyno graph shows it's not that far behind the real LS6 manifold. If the tubes can be better aligned it might improve.

As expected, the F.A.S.T. is a better manifold.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
Thanks for posting that 5.3. And thanks to dreadpirateroberts for the pics.

The alignment of the ports look pretty poor, I'm wondering if they can be pushed into position.

Honestly, the dyno graph shows it's not that far behind the real LS6 manifold. If the tubes can be better aligned it might improve.

As expected, the F.A.S.T. is a better manifold.
The fast intake also used a 90mm TB. Not exactly an apples to apples test. They should have used the same TB on all 3 manifolds...

Now we need someone to pressure test it to 40lbs and see if it pops!

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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Hmmm...wonder where a stock ls1 intake would fall compared to the dorman.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Sweet!! I have an LS6 but this is great news.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
The alignment of the ports look pretty poor, I'm wondering if they can be pushed into position.

Honestly, the dyno graph shows it's not that far behind the real LS6 manifold. If the tubes can be better aligned it might improve.
I'm wondering if there is anything sealing the to halves of the runners inside of the intake. If it's only sonic welded around the outside and nothing sealing up the inside that could cause some power loses. Internal leaks and poor parts alignment are what's wrong with the LS2 intake because on paper it's a better intake than the LS6.

I've got to say I'm a little disappointed with those dyno numbers I expected the Dorman intake to be slightly ahead of the LS6, but it was close. That motor showed a 30 hp gain with a FAST 92 over the LS6, thats a pretty big gain showing that this motor can handle all the air it can get so it is going to magnify any loses in hp also. The Dorman was 7 hp down from the LS6 at peak thats only a 1.5% loss and could likely be made up with porting.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
that's highly disappointing!

way to go, dorman. not even on par with an LS6.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fry_
I'm wondering if there is anything sealing the to halves of the runners inside of the intake. If it's only sonic welded around the outside and nothing sealing up the inside that could cause some power loses. Internal leaks and poor parts alignment are what's wrong with the LS2 intake because on paper it's a better intake than the LS6.
this was also one of my concerns.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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honestly, looking at that test, that LS engine wasn't a stock motor. I'm sure the results would be within a couple of horsepower on a stock LS1 or LS6 between the OEM LS6 manifold and the dorman.

anyway, i really think the dorman-designed top shell is what's killing the whole manifold's performance.

if it were still possible to obtain a FAST 78/90 top shell, it might have been a worthwhile endeavor to cut the dorman top off, use the FAST top shell instead, and reseal everything with RTV. that would still be a ton of work, and in the end even if it was cheaper, you still could have purchased a FAST 92 new and saved yourself all the trouble.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:14 PM
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Guys, I was lucky enough to see the piece that was dyno'd in that test. I was excited when I first saw it and somewhat disappointed when the results came back as I had hoped it would be as good as an LS-6. To answer some questions: Yes it is a little rough as produced, but it is also designed as an OE replacement part. Some flash removal and maybe some work to get the entrances close might add another 5-7. Also it is heavily glued together and I do not believe it would come apart without destroying it so porting would be difficult to say the least.-Mike
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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thanks for testing and posting it. looks like its gona be a little better then a LS1 intake, but not much
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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I still want to see someone pop the top off one and see whats going on inside the runners. But even without taking it apart there is still a lot of obvious improvements that can be made with some porting.
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dreadpirateroberts
that's highly disappointing!

way to go, dorman. not even on par with an LS6.
Originally Posted by studderin
thanks for testing and posting it. looks like its gona be a little better then a LS1 intake, but not much
5hp from an LS6 on a 550hp engine and its a huge disappointment?? Amazing how perceptions on identical things can vary so differently.
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
5hp from an LS6 on a 550hp engine and its a huge disappointment?? Amazing how perceptions on identical things can vary so differently.
And that 5 hp could easily be made up by doing a little porting. Hell you might come out a little ahead.
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
5hp from an LS6 on a 550hp engine and its a huge disappointment?? Amazing how perceptions on identical things can vary so differently.
it is disappointing when you can get an ls6 for slightly more, if not at about the same price. even more so when your engine comes with an LS6 intake from the factory.

also, the difference is closer to 10 hp according to that graph. that's significant in my opinion.

lastly, there is no data on a ported dorman yet. speculations on the performance of a ported unit are just that.
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