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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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well after being down about my current setup, i need to do something about it! Well heres the problem...i think the cam choice is what really messed it up. I have the a 228/228 on a 114 and its tuned and im only putting down 377hp and 371 torque. The car bucks at low rpms and still sometimes searches for idle. I dont know if I should go with the 224 since ive seen alot of people get 390+ out of that cam!!! and here i am with +4 on each end with less numbers.... i know bigger isnt always better and i think thats really the case with this. The car is a 99 m6 with the following mods: f10 cam on a 114, prc dual spring kit, tuned with edit by Sean Freese, ls6 intake, powdercoated and ported TB by Janzter, ngk tr55's, pacesetters with 2.5" catted TD's, and the MTI clear lid, tb bypass, !egr and !AIR, !cags, b&m shifter, spohn lca's and adjustable phb, nittos, fra, spec 3 and new slave........any ideas on if there's something i can do to better the current set up? The dyno was with 55% humidity if that helps at all.... would i get better power out of the 224 or should i go with a 230/232 or something like that??
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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sounsd like the tune is f-ed up. you may wanna post somethinga bout this in the dyno section and/or the pcmdiagnostics/tune section

did you get a baseline dyno by any chance? hp increase would be subjective to your baseline numbers.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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no, no baseline...i even have him do a few things with the tune a few days later cause i was having problems.....i guess ill have to wait till i take the car back to TX to get a follow up tune.....
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 05:01 AM
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If it's bucking and surging it's the tune. Still need some tweeking.
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Sounds like a tuning issue, as already mentioned.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Another vote for the tune being the problem.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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well after being down about my current setup, i need to do something about it! Well heres the problem...i think the cam choice is what really messed it up. I have the a 228/228 on a 114 and its tuned and im only putting down 377hp and 371 torque. The car bucks at low rpms and still sometimes searches for idle. I dont know if I should go with the 224 since ive seen alot of people get 390+ out of that cam!!! and here i am with +4 on each end with less numbers.... i know bigger isnt always better and i think thats really the case with this. The car is a 99 m6 with the following mods: f10 cam on a 114, prc dual spring kit, tuned with edit by Sean Freese, ls6 intake, powdercoated and ported TB by Janzter, ngk tr55's, pacesetters with 2.5" catted TD's, and the MTI clear lid, tb bypass, !egr and !AIR, !cags, b&m shifter, spohn lca's and adjustable phb, nittos, fra, spec 3 and new slave........any ideas on if there's something i can do to better the current set up? The dyno was with 55% humidity if that helps at all.... would i get better power out of the 224 or should i go with a 230/232 or something like that??
Is that Sean of So Cal Tune?
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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I vote tune as well. Have you called the guy that tuned it? Has it does this ever since the tune? Sounds like my car before the tune. I have the TSP 228R on 112 and the car idles fine and does not surge with stock gears unless I am moving slow or just coasting.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I vote tune as well. Have you called the guy that tuned it? Has it does this ever since the tune? Sounds like my car before the tune. I have the TSP 228R on 112 and the car idles fine and does not surge with stock gears unless I am moving slow or just coasting.
it bucks when im coasting or at low rpms .....im not in TX anymore so I cant just take it back to get retuned btw, that is Sean at Fastech in Balch Springs
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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as everyone else said, it sounds like it needs some more tweaking with the edit
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then i guess its narrowed down to the tuning
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Originally Posted by ninobrn99
then i guess its narrowed down to the tuning
Yep, tune is not right. Haufpauir went 10's cam only with the F10.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LSUxBlake
Yep, tune is not right. Haufpauir went 10's cam only with the F10.
omg!!! no ****!!! what were the rest of his mods???
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Do you have the dyno graph with the a/f plotted?
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yeah...the a/f goes from 13.2 to 13
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who installed cam?
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Well unless you're timing's messed up, the tune isn't causing your power loss.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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sux2bu installed it. doesnt seem to be anything wrong with the cam though.....i guess ill just have to live with it......i know a few others who are making slightly more power on the same cam, but i was almost certain I should have more....oh well it still sounds cool s
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LSUxBlake
Yep, tune is not right. Haufpauir went 10's cam only with the F10.
It was the f4 that he went 10's cam only with.
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