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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Hey fella's, I took motor vehicle mechanics but I couldnt come up with the technical term for this...
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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....oh ya FUCKED!!!



How they hell could this of happend? Should I be severly concerned? From what I can tell this could of happend a long time ago. I installed these plugs when I installed my cam, valvetrain, oil pump and timming chain last summer. I have been watching HP Tuners on the car frequently lately and I noticed constant misfire codes at idle. Decided to take a look at the plugs today and check the gaps. Id say this gap is custom at best.. What do you think is going on here?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Hey fella's, I took motor vehicle mechanics but I couldnt come up with the technical term for this...
Are you sure someone didn't bend it on the way in or out? That's crazy! Any others like that?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Oh, that's called FUBAR.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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The only other thing I can think of is a foreign object may be sitting in your combustion chamber.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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No others look like that. I am the one who installed the plugs, I suppose its possible that I did it on the way in, but it definitly wasnt done on the way out. Im not a big fan of the foreign object in the combustion chamber theory, but its possible. This is cylinder #4
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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That threaded snout looks abnormally long to me
for a standard tapered seat plug. Is this a non-
standard application, perhaps projecting too far
into the chamber? Any spare heads you could screw
one into and see whether it might break plane?
(Or since it's piston-out-of-hole on these motors,
even close to plane?)
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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Also, it could be that the plug nose was too long for the engine head. Wow.....nuts

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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
That threaded snout looks abnormally long to me
for a standard tapered seat plug. Is this a non-
standard application, perhaps projecting too far
into the chamber? Any spare heads you could screw
one into and see whether it might break plane?
(Or since it's piston-out-of-hole on these motors,
even close to plane?)
Unfortunately I dont have any other heads kicking around here no.
Its supposed to be a TR55
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by aNuBiS
Hey fella's, I took motor vehicle mechanics but I couldnt come up with the technical term for this...
Need to put a warning label on the box for you for the future

"Before new Spark-Plug installation, DO NOT use the spark plug to open your beer"
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Not a regular TR55, but iridium tip. What does it say on the porcelin?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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I do believe the technical term is screwed.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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I do believe the technical term is screwed.
Ahhh, see. I musta skiped that class
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Need to do a compression check on that cylinder. Looks like something came in contact with it.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Hi Folks
I would find it hard to believe that happen inside the engine unless something was inside the cylinder which would have damaged values, etc. Somebody might have dropped the plug during installation or something and not noticed the damage. Just my two cents
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill's 02 Z-28 SS
Hi Folks
I would find it hard to believe that happen inside the engine unless something was inside the cylinder which would have damaged values, etc. Somebody might have dropped the plug during installation or something and not noticed the damage. Just my two cents
Bill

I am quite certain I didnt do that before I put the plug in the car. I didnt have the exhaust manifolds on, and I was doing it from underneath the car on a hoist, so there was no struggling or weird angles. I wont say I guarantee it, but Im highly doubting I did it during install.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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put a plug in it and star it up if its still missing then compression/leak down it. Im gonna gp for the object in the cylinder theory. try fishing in the hole with a magnet. I saw a guy fire up his motor and it was knocking like a bitch from one side. pulled the plug and found what you found got a bore oscope and looked inthere and found a nut hammered into he piston. dug it out with a pick and pulled it with a magnet. hes put 20k on it since then no issues
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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1) Detonation, thats what I call the chunky stuff residing in the soot.

2) You guess its a TR55ix, or it is? Nothing really in b/w. It either says its one or not (if all the markings are gone, compare to all other plugs).

3) My vote is against anything in the chamber, there would most likely be a very noticeable mark on the grounding strap from the impact, not neatly bent over.

4) possible causes:
a) dropped or banged the grounding strap on install (wouldnt be on removal as there are no clean marks and the would have to be dropped to deform the GS like that).
b) manufacturer defect, having a weak spot in that particular GS.
c) leaned out a little in that cylinder, causing the detonation as well as excess heat deformed the GS.

Thats just my $.02
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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" My vote is against anything in the chamber, there would most likely be a very noticeable mark on the grounding strap from the impact, not neatly bent over.
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on a second look I agree with that there is no sign of impact besides being bent and when **** gos wrong in there it usally hits more then once. LIke I said sitck a plug in and see what happens
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
1) Detonation, thats what I call the chunky stuff residing in the soot.

2) You guess its a TR55ix, or it is? Nothing really in b/w. It either says its one or not (if all the markings are gone, compare to all other plugs).

3) My vote is against anything in the chamber, there would most likely be a very noticeable mark on the grounding strap from the impact, not neatly bent over.

4) possible causes:
a) dropped or banged the grounding strap on install (wouldnt be on removal as there are no clean marks and the would have to be dropped to deform the GS like that).
b) manufacturer defect, having a weak spot in that particular GS.
c) leaned out a little in that cylinder, causing the detonation as well as excess heat deformed the GS.

Thats just my $.02
I would probably agree more with b) & c) myself. There was no contact marks anywhere on the plug. I did spray nitrous recently, but I cant say if thats what caused it.
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