Granatelli Plug wires over 15 rwhp gain??
02-28-2011, 06:06 PM
#62
I was looking over Granatelli's site, and they advertise there coil packs will give you 12-18 HP...... anyone else skeptical on that? I'd like to see a back to back dyno pull with there coils swaped between each pull... if they really do add 12-18 ill be amazed.
So Granatelli coil packs+Granatelli plug wires=27-33HP.
So Granatelli coil packs+Granatelli plug wires=27-33HP.
02-28-2011, 06:08 PM
#63
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magnecor.com has some interesting info on this topic.
Go to "The truth about ignition wire conductors"
Go to "The truth about ignition wire conductors"
02-28-2011, 06:09 PM
#64
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I just got an auto respond now and jumped on it. Weird I know. I don’t like to fight about stuff - As the owner of GMS I always come out the looser. I am either told I am picking on someone or I come off like the bad guy. The fact is the parts work. I agree that truck picking up 55hp total was a crazy thing - and here is the kicker, Summit Racing sold like 100+ kits off that article and GMS received over 30 letters from customers saying how happy they were with what they got - There was not one unhappy testimonial of customer generated - Everyone felt like they got their moneys worth
LS1TECH has alwasy been made up of TECH-ee guys. This thread got to be like so many others on any non-particular thing. Just a bunch guys bantering back and forth with no real data or info
02-28-2011, 06:16 PM
#66
On The Tree
I think I’m gonna call you guys on this one. It does look like GMS wires do make an improvement, whether it be their tested 17HP or less. In the thread, there was a call out to anybody who’s used these wires which went unanswered.
GMS, it is odd that you’ve responded to this so long afterwards but I’ll cut you some slack, maybe you just saw the thread. Also folks, consider that with (currently) just 21 posts since registering in 2002, GMS really isn’t on here.
I do believe GMS to be a reputable shop, if they weren’t, people would’ve been onto them long ago and they would be out of business.
I am considering these wires as a future purchase. Even if they don’t add 17 HP, I feel confidant they’ll do something positive.
And for those saying to go with Taylors? Good luck with that. I had them and they are JUNK-as many here have discovered. Plenty posted about that.
GMS, it is odd that you’ve responded to this so long afterwards but I’ll cut you some slack, maybe you just saw the thread. Also folks, consider that with (currently) just 21 posts since registering in 2002, GMS really isn’t on here.
I do believe GMS to be a reputable shop, if they weren’t, people would’ve been onto them long ago and they would be out of business.
I am considering these wires as a future purchase. Even if they don’t add 17 HP, I feel confidant they’ll do something positive.
And for those saying to go with Taylors? Good luck with that. I had them and they are JUNK-as many here have discovered. Plenty posted about that.
As for testing the wires - my offer is still there $105 a set
- they have a lifetime warranty too 
02-28-2011, 06:18 PM
#68
also, I'm assuming your 2010-2011 camaro LS3 plug wires are slightly longer than the LS1 plus wire since the coil packs sit slightly higher on the valve cover? My msd wires seem like they need more slack with coils sitting higher on the valve cover.
02-28-2011, 06:22 PM
#70
On The Tree
LMAO! total BS!
I've got some land for sale for you if you really think 100+ wires add power.
If your wires or plugs are degraded in the first place then yes fixing the problem with give your engine new life. From what I've seen the MSD's + NGK's from Nasty Performance are the best deal. Picking up a set for my 4.8 conversion.
I've got some land for sale for you if you really think 100+ wires add power.
If your wires or plugs are degraded in the first place then yes fixing the problem with give your engine new life. From what I've seen the MSD's + NGK's from Nasty Performance are the best deal. Picking up a set for my 4.8 conversion.
a ton of NASCAR teams run our wires and all claim they are are good after the 500 as they were before. Data from DEI:
MSD wires before the 500 304 ohm loss in a 26" ignition wire. after the the race - 1204 ohms resistance.
Granatelli wires - 0 ohm drop before - after .02ohm if that - their words not mine
- they are just that good
02-28-2011, 06:27 PM
#71
Aftermarket Auto Industry has two parts to it:
a TON of dirtbag liars who make fabricated claims (K&N, Tornado, Octane boost, etc...)
and
the morons out there that believe them
Anyone that thinks a plug wire change is going to give them 15 hp....or for that matter a 1 hp increase.........is one of those morons.
Good thing there's a TINY handful of good, honorable, aftermarket companies making stuff for us.
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a TON of dirtbag liars who make fabricated claims (K&N, Tornado, Octane boost, etc...)
and
the morons out there that believe them
Anyone that thinks a plug wire change is going to give them 15 hp....or for that matter a 1 hp increase.........is one of those morons.
Good thing there's a TINY handful of good, honorable, aftermarket companies making stuff for us.
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02-28-2011, 06:30 PM
#72
I put a set of Taylor 10.4 Thunderbolt wires on my 427ci years and years ago....it did absolutely nothing. Plus those pieces of crap broke so easily when taking them off, 8 of them broke.
As for performance....ZERO. I went to Advance Aut oand bought $36.00 replacements. 7 years later they're still on there and doing great.
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As for performance....ZERO. I went to Advance Aut oand bought $36.00 replacements. 7 years later they're still on there and doing great.
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02-28-2011, 06:40 PM
#74
On The Tree
I was looking over Granatelli's site, and they advertise there coil packs will give you 12-18 HP...... anyone else skeptical on that? I'd like to see a back to back dyno pull with there coils swaped between each pull... if they really do add 12-18 ill be amazed.
So Granatelli coil packs+Granatelli plug wires=27-33HP.
So Granatelli coil packs+Granatelli plug wires=27-33HP.
Gains of up to 12hp have been seen with these coils over stock. Average gain with no other changes is 6 to 8hp on an otherwise stock vehicle. Gains of up to 18hp have been experienced on heavily modified forced induction applications
02-28-2011, 06:44 PM
#75
Well i might be one of those morons but we will see. I just ordered a set 
. My LS1 MSD's just seem to be a tad to short for the LS3 coil location (slighty higher on the valve cover than a LS1 coil). So i wanted a new set of wires any how, I just didn't like how tight the MSD's where.
I have a dyno tune scheduled for april 29th at speed inc. So I'm gonna do my own back to back dyno comparison with the wire swap in between and see how much i really pick up from these wires. As long as speed inc will allow it.
And hey if i don't pick up any HP atleast i got a set of lifetime warrenty plug wires for $105
. My LS1 MSD's just seem to be a tad to short for the LS3 coil location (slighty higher on the valve cover than a LS1 coil). So i wanted a new set of wires any how, I just didn't like how tight the MSD's where.I have a dyno tune scheduled for april 29th at speed inc. So I'm gonna do my own back to back dyno comparison with the wire swap in between and see how much i really pick up from these wires. As long as speed inc will allow it.
And hey if i don't pick up any HP atleast i got a set of lifetime warrenty plug wires for $105
02-28-2011, 06:51 PM
#76
On The Tree
Well i might be one of those morons but we will see. I just ordered a set . My LS1 MSD's just seem to be a tad to short for the LS3 coil location (slighty higher on the valve cover than a LS1 coil). So i wanted a new set of wires any how, I just didn't like how tight the MSD's where.
I have a dyno tune scheduled for april 29th at speed inc. So I'm gonna do my own back to back dyno comparison with the wire swap in between and see how much i really pick up from these wires. As long as speed inc will allow it.
And hey if i don't pick up any HP atleast i got a set of lifetime warrenty plug wires for $105
. My LS1 MSD's just seem to be a tad to short for the LS3 coil location (slighty higher on the valve cover than a LS1 coil). So i wanted a new set of wires any how, I just didn't like how tight the MSD's where.I have a dyno tune scheduled for april 29th at speed inc. So I'm gonna do my own back to back dyno comparison with the wire swap in between and see how much i really pick up from these wires. As long as speed inc will allow it.
And hey if i don't pick up any HP atleast i got a set of lifetime warrenty plug wires for $105
02-28-2011, 08:07 PM
#79
Well i might be one of those morons but we will see. I just ordered a set . My LS1 MSD's just seem to be a tad to short for the LS3 coil location (slighty higher on the valve cover than a LS1 coil). So i wanted a new set of wires any how, I just didn't like how tight the MSD's where.
I have a dyno tune scheduled for april 29th at speed inc. So I'm gonna do my own back to back dyno comparison with the wire swap in between and see how much i really pick up from these wires. As long as speed inc will allow it.
And hey if i don't pick up any HP atleast i got a set of lifetime warrenty plug wires for $105
. My LS1 MSD's just seem to be a tad to short for the LS3 coil location (slighty higher on the valve cover than a LS1 coil). So i wanted a new set of wires any how, I just didn't like how tight the MSD's where.I have a dyno tune scheduled for april 29th at speed inc. So I'm gonna do my own back to back dyno comparison with the wire swap in between and see how much i really pick up from these wires. As long as speed inc will allow it.
And hey if i don't pick up any HP atleast i got a set of lifetime warrenty plug wires for $105