Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

longtube headers install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:37 AM
  #1  
platinum310's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: socal
Default longtube headers install

if i was to buy flowtech or pacesetter longtube headers black coated(im on a budget), do i need to by the y pipe along with it or can i just stick with the stock one. what else do i need for installation. i have a hooker catback and im in socal.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:41 AM
  #2  
SSDude's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Default

Long tube headers need another Y pipe. The stock one will not fit.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:46 AM
  #3  
glennhl's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
From: Chandler, Arizona
Default

If you are on a budget, you may look at the do-it-yourself ceramic coating from Eastwood. You also need a new Y-pipe, the stock pipe will not fit up to the headers. I've heard really good things about the Pacesetters. Go ahead and get their Y pipe. Or if you know a good muffler shop, they could make one up for you, but I doubt it would be as cheap as the Pacesetter Y pipe. Also check Texas-speed.com they have their own Y pipe for $129 that fits the Pacesetters, plus they sell the uncoated Pacesetters for $270, Good luck.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:32 AM
  #4  
bikemanx2's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Default

You can get Pacesetter ceramic coated longtubes plus an ory from texas speed for $500 as a combo they offer.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:38 AM
  #5  
calongo_SS's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 1
From: Victoria, TX
Default

Being in cali you might want to get some cats as well to avoid harassment. Just incase you don't know, even with cats you will fail the visual inspection.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 04:16 AM
  #6  
Ell Ess Won's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,245
Likes: 0
From: Top of 4th Gear; Plano, TX
Default

Originally Posted by calongo_SS
Being in cali you might want to get some cats as well to avoid harassment. Just incase you don't know, even with cats you will fail the visual inspection.
with cats youll fail the inspectio in cali for having longtubes? thats messed.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:37 AM
  #7  
platinum310's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: socal
Default

im not worried about failling the visual, it the actual emission test that im worried about. does the y pipe have the cats on it?so with the Y pipe i need the ones that come with cats or can i some how get the stock cats welded back onto the new y pipe(remember im on a tight budget)? dont i also need the o2 extensions. so is pacesetter better than flowtech. i dont think i need them coated since my car is garaged and i live in socal,and its not my daily driver, right
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:49 AM
  #8  
calongo_SS's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 1
From: Victoria, TX
Default

You will need to buy a catted-y, stock cats won't work. You will need at least 1 o2 extension also, and sims for the rear o2's.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:12 AM
  #9  
98ls1vert's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

you'll either need to buy the y pipe or make a custom one. Just for another opinion, I've had huge fitment problems with my pacesetters. They bang against the k-member and the bottom of the body beneath the driver's side. Grinding the k-member solved that problem, but I've tried lots of things (including the thunder racing bumpstop) and haven't been able to fix it hitting under the floor. I hear other brands don't have this problem as often, but I don't know.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:08 PM
  #10  
platinum310's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: socal
Default

so my best bet would be pacesetter lt's($279) with a TSP catted y ($349) with o2 ext. ($20) and O2 sims ($89), anything else?
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:10 PM
  #11  
Beasst8's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
From: Goldsboro, NC
Default

That would prob do it. I did the install with my Pacestters about a month ago. It was sweet. I have heard of fitment probs with old pacesetter LT's. Not the new ones. Actually, with my setup there was a good 3/4 of an inch if not more of clearance around the K member and I picked up just under an inch of ground clearance on the driver side part of the Y which is SWEET cause im lowered.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:28 PM
  #12  
joecar's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 17
From: So.Cal.
Default

Originally Posted by Ell Ess Won
with cats youll fail the inspectio in cali for having longtubes? thats messed.
Yeah, LT's and highflow cats fail the visual.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:59 PM
  #13  
hatdragracer's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Default

The install wouldn't be that bad, but I would never install anything but stainless or coated (my SLP headers have both) as they will look like crap in a couple weeks.

Turn the couch upside down...steal from one of your loser ricer buddies...whatever you have to do to get coated headers. You will kick yourself if you don't
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:09 PM
  #14  
FHAWKer's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach, FL
Default

Does Texas do a visual inspection of the exhaust? Will LT's fail? I'm taking my car back to Texas after I graduate and I put on LTs and an ORY (I'm ordering one I can swap out every year with stock cats to pass the sniffer) and it would really **** me off if they wouldn't let me pass because my headers are too long.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:25 PM
  #15  
calongo_SS's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 1
From: Victoria, TX
Default

I've never had a problem because of long tubes. No cats they will most likley catch though. FYI you can not put stock cats on LT's, you will have to put the stock manifolds back on too.
Most places in TX have no sniffer, it's only in certian counties.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:40 PM
  #16  
SmokeySS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,051
Likes: 0
Default

Are the gaskets that come from PS and the stock bolts good enough or should you get better parts to install with the headers?
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:48 PM
  #17  
snake_skinner93's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: Fall Branch, TN
Default

its best to buy better header gaskets, but the ones included work too (just not as reliable as better brands)
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:25 PM
  #18  
gnbooster87's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Lynwood
Default

instead of buying to extensions i would recommend getting some rear 02 sensor from a corvette 97-05, if you use the extensions youll start to get ses codes and theyll come on everytime even if you reset the codes.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE